Will a flooded Rickter Float or Sink???

JKMike

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Side topic... But can someone tell me why I stoped getting notifications of new posts in a thread I created??? I was getting them for a while but apparently there are 2 more pages of posts I didn't know were here. lol

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There are definitely CO2 inflatable vests and other devices out there. Here are 2 examples. The wrist ones seem like they could actually work for what we need. Put one or two on the Handlepole, and if poop goes sideways, set them off. What yaw think? Amazon says they can float a 270lbs/120kg PERSON(EDIT).

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https://www.amazon.com/HeySplash-Wr...stband&qid=1581295986&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-2

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https://www.amazon.com/Onyx-M-16-Manual-Inflatable-Jacket/dp/B013RLI9XS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ZY0FYF0J6U6X&dchild=1&keywords=co2+inflatable+life+preservers&qid=1581295889&sprefix=co2+inflatable+,aps,143&sr=8-1
 
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JKMike

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Sopsurfer said:
I've often thought a tray without foam possessing drain plugs would be the best. Then you know if a tray leaks. The only time this would be a disadvantage is if you broke the tray and it sunk right then and there. I'm currently dealing with an fr2 full of pink foam but the foam is wet. How wet? Who knows? I got it dried somewhat through time, a hole, and compressed air. I considered putting in plugs just to know. But would you know? If water doesn't travel to the plugs with all that foam you don't know. Maybe no foam is best.

Anyone ever consider some type of float bag like a kayak in the engine bay?
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These are the float bags Kayaks use.

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Big Kahuna

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JKMike said:
Side topic... But can someone tell me why I stoped getting notifications of new posts in a thread I created??? I was getting them for a while but apparently there are 2 more pages of posts I didn't know were here. lol

Back on topic.

There are definitely CO2 inflatable vests and other devices out there. Here are 2 examples. The wrist ones seem like they could actually work for what we need. Put one or two on the Handlepole, and if poop goes sideways, set them off. What yaw think? Amazon says they can float 270lbs/120kg.

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https://www.amazon.com/HeySplash-Wr...stband&qid=1581295986&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-2

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https://www.amazon.com/Onyx-M-16-Manual-Inflatable-Jacket/dp/B013RLI9XS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ZY0FYF0J6U6X&dchild=1&keywords=co2+inflatable+life+preservers&qid=1581295889&sprefix=co2+inflatable+,aps,143&sr=8-1
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try checking your settings to see if you somehow turned off notifications.
 
bored&stroked

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Sopsurfer said:
I've often thought a tray without foam possessing drain plugs would be the best. Then you know if a tray leaks. The only time this would be a disadvantage is if you broke the tray and it sunk right then and there. I'm currently dealing with an fr2 full of pink foam but the foam is wet. How wet? Who knows? I got it dried somewhat through time, a hole, and compressed air. I considered putting in plugs just to know. But would you know? If water doesn't travel to the plugs with all that foam you don't know. Maybe no foam is best.
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We've all agreed if your taking that route then fill the tray area up with noodles or foam boards. That leaves enough gaps for the water to run down to the drains while still giving you foam to help float even if it does leak.
 
smokeysevin

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The only downside I can see with using the pink foam is that if you have fuel leak into the hull and the rear cavity is open, your foam will get dissolved. That being said, if you have a fuel leak you probably have bigger issues.

Sean
 
HollaHolla

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JKMike said:
These are the float bags Kayaks use.

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These kayak things are good. I bought the smallest one they have. The nice part is that you can squeeze the deflated bag into the nose of the ski then use the long hose to blow it up to fill up as much room as there is up there. This plus wrapping your life jacket around the handle pole should keep it at surface level from my science math.

I also mounted one of those Co2 inflatable devices on the handle pole and would pull the lever if poop gets crazy and i'm lucky to be near my ski to pull the tab.
 
Quinc

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bored&stroked said:
We've all agreed if your taking that route then fill the tray area up with noodles or foam boards. That leaves enough gaps for the water to run down to the drains while still giving you foam to help float even if it does leak.
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Heads up on the noodles. They will eventually hold onto water. Sister had one in her pool storage box all winter in water and the noodle ended up fully water logged.
 
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My thoughts on a solution involve an inflatable bag/balloon fed from a co2 canister with an automated trigger. ‘Ski sinks, trigger monitors how long it’s been under water (so it doesn’t activate from a short term immersion) before inflating the bag/balloon. ‘Ski achieves positive buoyancy and comes to the surface.
 
Pro-pulsion

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I just spent about a week researching this very thing and found that the stuff they use for floating docks is called dock billets. It comes in 7" or 10" thicknesses and 4'x8' slabs. The common thing with those is the mechanical properties also found in the proper high density rigid foam board. The typical Home Depot blue or pink 1" or 2" stuff is only capable of handling 30 psi compressive strength and I'm not sure if it's closed cell foam. I just bought the right stuff to do the job a day ago. It comes in a higher cost but how much is your ski worth to you? The stuff I bought is made by Dupont, it's called Dow Highload 100. It has 100 psi compressive strength, is closed cell foam and is used specifically for wet conditions and hefty freeze/thaw cycles. It also has a water absorption rate of 0.1% by volume...basically it's not going to soak up water at all.

It is commonly used as a sub-layer before concrete pouring or used under airport runways. It is pretty much exactly the same thing as the dock billet, and dock billet does need to have the 100 psi compressive strength capability, but this stuff is in rigid board style and maybe a little more reliable due to the long term conditions it is required to handle and the fact that it needs to be long term reliable if used for airports. I paid $74 for a 2 inch thick by 2 foot wide by 8 foot long sheet. Also while researching this, I found that these very properties are recommended for marine use where some structural filling is needed. I'll be hauling the pool noodles out of my sj very soon to do some hull repairs and re-equipping my tray with the new rigid board I just bought. Here are some links to a few different 100 psi compressive strength closed cell rigid foam options...

www.dupont.com

Styrofoam™ Brand Highload 40

Engineered to meet the needs of high-load applications. DuPont™ Styrofoam™ Brand Highload Extruded Polystyrene Insulation has what it takes to stand up to the demands of airport runways, bridge abutments, ice rinks, and more.
www.dupont.com www.dupont.com

Commercial Building Insulation Products | Owens Corning

Select the best building insulation based on the unique needs of your commercial project.
insulation.owenscorning.ca

Floatation-Buoyancy Components & Solutions: Airfoam EPS Billets

www.airfoam.com www.airfoam.com
 
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