www.X-h2o and it's keyboard cowboys !! NEGATIVE !!!

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
When I first got on this site I didn't know what a foothold was,although I have been involved in standups since 1986,the whole standup scene had pretty much died here.I found what people were doing to their boats here very interesting ,I have learned a lot and made quiet a few friends along the way.I got to go to three freerides so far and they just keep getting better and better every time.I have seen the sport grow tremendously in my area and some of that is because of this site,thanks guys and keep up the good work.

And proving my previous reply even more now, a douche bag comes on here starting som negative crap and it evolves into this(eventually). LOL

Terry aka wedoseadoo is another person I have got to know because of the X!!! I think he is gay, but hey, different strokes for different folks. LOL
J/K J/K J/K J/K ( tho I can picture him in my mind on the stage as one of the Village People singing YMCA) OMG that was funny. Sorry Bro. laugh w/me.
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
Ang going 1 step further, there is a member here on the X that used to hate my guts due to a deal gone wrong A LONG TIME AGO. We spotted each other here on the X because he got back into watercraft and we have since become very good friends. It's funny how stuff always seems to go full circle eventually. Now if I could just get the time to get all his ski's done because he obviously is not. LOL
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
You are just jealous because I have long hair and can sing, I have an old lady Madscientist has met her,shes real=me not gay,thanks for the concern though bro!
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
You are just jealous because I have long hair and can sing, I have an old lady Madscientist has met her,shes real=me not gay,thanks for the concern though bro!


Justin would lie for you just because you are a X2 rider. LOL :nana:

But I am now just a little concerned that you are NOT denying the Village People thing. LMAO
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
It's a facade. We know how your types try to fool us straight people! :naughty:


Steve, Terry IS married, are you??? OMG I am on a roll this morning, it must be the Nashville air. LMAO You know better than to leave doors open if I am awake. LOL :spank::spank:
 

Jr.

Standing Tall
Staff member
Site Supporter
Location
Hot-Lanta
I for one can relate to exactly where Butch is coming from. I have had the pleasure of knowing him for quite a few years. Butch has a Passion, as some are putting it, that few here can rival. Besides his bad business decisions, He has the good of the sport in his heart…… Unfortunately, He has experienced a bitter sting.

I myself felt that exact sting, about a year ago. When a very close friend turned against me, followed closely by the membership of this board. Yea, I was bitter too. But since that has happened, I look at this sport in a different light. I look at it for what it is.

There are many people here who are Unique. They go by the beat of a different drummer. At least on the water. What happens when they are at the keyboard is what bewilders me?
Everyone can be the best of friends when at a ride or event. But put them behind the screen & keyboard……. Here comes Jekyll & Hyde.

The X & many communities like it have similar problems. It’s a lack of respect for others. But in reality, that respect starts from within. Places like the X were created for the good of the topic at hand. They were created for a common bond for the enthusiast of the given topic. But as Gil put it, their personal passions cause drama…………….??
I’m not sure I agree totally. Drama can be good if it’s about the given topic or event.
But when Bitter conflicts take the main line…… That’s Bad, Very Bad!
It drags down all the positive efforts of the community at large.
This, I feel is what Butch’s topic is emphising.
I see many posts where someone tries to answer a question, without having any idea of what the real solution to the problem is. Thus causing the original person more turmoil in his quest for a solution. Or, someone asks a simple opinion question, only to be bombarded with negative feedback. Do those responses do any good for what this site represents?? Does it do any good for the guy who is just trying to enjoy his new found hobby?? Think about these things before you post! And, as on the submit button…. “BE RESPECTFUL”

In late fall 05; I had a vision with the sale of pwct that was to create a site for the stand-up enthusiast. I started the ball rolling & enlisted the help of two very close friends to become partners in this new venture. Thus the X was born. Today, the X has evolved into the première site for the stand-up enthusiast. It has gone world wide, & has over 4000 members to date. Pretty good for a couple of guys who just love to ride!
I’m extremely proud of it’s accomplishments & how the membership can take a sport to new levels…… That positive role is what I envisioned in its conception.

The X can & will continue to grow with POSITIVE support of all its members. The key role here is Positive! Think before you hit the submit button. Your opinion has more power than you know.

Yesterday, I totally enjoyed my day. For the first time all summer, a special group of very good friends & family took to the lake. We had a blast! You know what; there is more to life than being behind your keyboard worrying about crap like this……. Go out & Ride!

Ski ya, Paul
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
:sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks::sucks:

everyone heres an idea go:439::439::439::439::439: and show some love for once...

do i need to call dr. phill for u guys?:nono:


Did someone request Dr. Gil??? I am in da house beyotchs. Now, everyone do a group hug or I will pull the car over and give everyone a spankin immediately!!!:spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank:
 
Darin is right. This is the best way to do it. The negative feedbacks have gone down ALOT and nobody is name-calling or threatening each other. The negative feedbacks also don't have 100 pages of people bashing each other trying to get the last word in that don't even know either party. The positive Change has been dramatic!

...and by the way,
Because of this site:
I have been to 17 Freerides.
I have thrown 3 Freerides.
I have made 2 Movies.
I have seen 8 Jetski Movies.
I have seen 100's of short videos!
I have bought 30 or 40 parts for my ski.
I have learned about new parts & Companies for my ski.
I have saved $100's of dollars on repairs from the advice on here.
I have been on the water probably an extra 100 times, instead of wrenching all the time.

...and most important, I have made at least 100 friends around the country that I can ride with and probably have a place to crash.

...and guess what, I don't have anything against ANY Jetski Company. If that isn't positive, I don't know what is.

The X :bananalama:


thousands of dollars dude....not hundreds...

jesus, can you imagine if you had have had a DEALER do all the fixing youve ever done to your ski?

I more than likely woudl have NEVER owned a jetski had it not been for the X and the OG pwctoday.com!
 

wayne

wannaroll
Location
Mesquite, Texas
paul,

i agree with people making replies and not knowing what they are talking about.

however, when people ask a question it will go unanswered by the people that DO know what they are talking about.

i have said it several times. if you don't know any one on here you get NO help. the ones that can help seem to be jerks when it comes to giving proper advise. most of the time they sit back and wait for some one to give the wrong advise then they jump in.

so what if you don't know the person. just yesterday we had a newbie show up at lewisville. he came up to me and asked "how do you ride these things?" he had 650sx and i gave him some tips and he was up and riding. then skinnyman helped him with his intake grate. this is the first time this kid showed up and i garantee he felt very welcome. nobody kicked him to the curb like happens to newbies on this site. it has gotten a little better, but still has a long way to go when helping newbies.

other than that, this site is the BOMB.
 

SuperJETT

So long and thanks for all the fish
Location
none
Just to clarify things a little:

I started noseats.com in August 2005 as a standup only forum, but out of respect for Rob@pwctoday since I was still an admin there and he was trying to sell it, never really pushed it and shut it down a few months later. December 2005 is when SBT bought pwctoday, then Paul contacted me about pushing noseats.com further, x-h2o ended up out of that. The 'vision' was noseats.com originally.

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Jr.

Standing Tall
Staff member
Site Supporter
Location
Hot-Lanta
Wayne, I know what you mean. The guys who do know whats up, are just tired of the negativity assicoiated with some of the membership. so they don't give the answers to the tech questions. Basicly, they don't have time for all the drama on here. Then there are the ones you stated, who just jump in. Is it going to change??
only if the membership takes charge & puts a stop to thoses who do. It's all in how everyone respects each other.

Yea Matt, I'm still here........ never really left. Good to hear from you.

ski ya, Paul
 

slickchaos

Chaos on a SJ
Location
Mass/NH
heck,

if it wasnt for the X i wouldnt never got involved with Standups (got a SJ).. there is not many in the northeast and you just dont see them often...

If wasnt for the X, i wouldnt have installed the footholds...and as most of you, they make a difference and alot more fun riding..

like paul said, yesterday was a great day, had about 7 family members come up to lake and try the SJ for the first time.. nothign but smiles from them.. one wants to buy a standup now...

slowly, but surely the sport is spreading..

thanks to all for you help many times over...
 

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
Hey Paul!

I sent you a PM, check it dude!

I agree with Wayne here as well.

I see questions, sometimes I think I can help, sometimes IM guessing, but if they go unanswered for a day or two, I generally try and give SOME advice even its off the cuff.

as one of those guys who doesnt make a living by working on skis, I can only say, I am only trying to help some folks if their situation sounds similar to a problem ive had or experienced.

the rest of of the content of this thread doesnt even warrant a comment in my opinion.



Wayne, I know what you mean. The guys who do know whats up, are just tired of the negativity assicoiated with some of the membership. so they don't give the answers to the tech questions. Basicly, they don't have time for all the drama on here. Then there are the ones you stated, who just jump in. Is it going to change??
only if the membership takes charge & puts a stop to thoses who do. It's all in how everyone respects each other.

Yea Matt, I'm still here........ never really left. Good to hear from you.

ski ya, Paul
 

SXIPro

JM781 Big Bore
I for one can relate to exactly where Butch is coming from. I have had the pleasure of knowing him for quite a few years. Butch has a Passion, as some are putting it, that few here can rival. Besides his bad business decisions, He has the good of the sport in his heart…… Unfortunately, He has experienced a bitter sting.

I myself felt that exact sting, about a year ago. When a very close friend turned against me, followed closely by the membership of this board. ]


Ski ya, Paul


By a small handfull of members that just happen to be more vocal and redundant than most people, not the entire membership of the X, that's for damn sure. I was rippin' my LPW/JR Maggooified SJ for hours on end this weekend, and as always, it ran flawlessly. Both my kids were running boats that run like clockwork and rip right along side me thanks to the advice and assistance you have given me over the years. My SJ still sports JR Magoos vinyl in enormous font size, and I display it with pride.

Sorry for the threadjack...but I had such a great weekend with my kids this weekend, and I owe a lot of it to you and the help you give us newbs. So..well..umm..Thanks Paul, and it is nice to see a post from you here. :Banane19:
 

tom21

havin fun
Location
clearwater FL
I guess I give people more credit than they deserve. I figure most can see thru the nonsense( that all sites have to a larger degree!) and the ones who do get caught up have an agenda or are trying to stand up for someone. either way if you are on a site long enough it becomes clear who the main players are and who the drama queens are and all the rest.

its not a "site" issue its a people issue. and unfortunately you have to have the drama because sooner or later I think almost everyone gets sucked in.

I think both sites have enough good knowledgeable posters to help with every single problem out there. If you can't find someone who knows whats up with your couch or standup on these sites you have serious problems or ARE POSTING IN THE WRONG SECTION OR NOT BEING SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR ANYONE TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM. ( in most cases)

All in all I think this site is a tremendous help and even though it can be rough at times if you keep a cool head and keep reading I promise you will be better for it.

I wonder how much business for say hydroturf comes from these sites? enough for one bad post to matter? I love HT and when I see someone have an issue I usually think its on them, maybe I am wrong and companies do screw up but I see a company that actively comes on here to make things right or defend a misrepresented statement versus some guy who is spouting off and it is easy to make up my mind who did what. again I am sure things happen but I also feel most of the companies on here if given the chance will make it right if they can and are given the chance to.

some people are just nuts and nothing you ever do or say will ever please them. I fire these people as customers. my life is difficult enough without having to deal with THAT! luckily the world is in short supply of these types.

thanks to everyone who makes this site better!!!! and may those of you who don't get arthritis!!!!!:jester:
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
It is a catch 22 here,damned if you do and damned if you don't.If you do jump in and try to help then you get the comments like, you are padding your post count,post whore ,etc.If you don't jump in then people cry why won't anyone help me? I for one am totally guilty of jumping in when I see someone give advice that is totally wrong or misleading,I feel it is better to do that than have someone follow said advice and screw up their ski.
 

ski4

gonzo
Location
cleveland
well said paul
i really don't get this talk about padding post counts etc
:261:who care how many posts someone has

why would one want a hi post count is there some cash and prizes i don't know about?

i come on and post when im feeling it and then when im not i don't spend much time here
 
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