Other Yamaha oem made in China?

[Sparkplug]

Mandarin is better than English. More descriptive

China has dominated in engineering marvels. Only country that come close to scale is Dubai. They changed the rotational speed of the planet with the size of their dam

Machine code. Is machine code. It's the same everywhere. Your spec is the spec they hit. Gotta pay to play

Ya. Their f35 copy didn't crash into the ocean. Like ours did

Wonder why so much money is being invested into China. Must be because of the cheap crap labor.



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[Sparkplug]

Love how the post under this one in general is a bunch of people praising a manifold a guy in AMERICA copied from an AMERICAN manufacturer. And had China make it

Is that irony, hypocrisy, ignorance, or a whole bunch of all 3???

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[kevbo]

It is the most cost effective way to make a part. A cheap B pipe copy is what consumers want, somebody finally made it happen. Some day a container full of cheap AM hulls may show up.

 

[mthomps]

Toyota too. I love my Tundra but the inherent defects are brutal, 100% the fault of poor design and strangely 100% my problem to cure. How does that even work out logically?? Rear differential bearings made wrong, the update kit cost $3500 to buy and have installed. Front CV driveshaft bearings, still super loose from 2007 to current. You can grab a shaft, push it up and down and get about a 1/4" of play out of it. There's an aftermarket kit that uses properly fitted bearings but it's about a $400 usd kit to cure what should never have needed a cure. There has been at least 5 driveshaft updates since 07, the rear leaf spring pack is known for snapping the second from the bottom spring. Then it slides forward and rubs through the fuel tank from flapping around if you don't catch it soon enough. There's a voluntary recall on the Tacoma for it but not the Tundra...of course there isn't lol. The box is made in 3 pieces, floor and both sides. The sides are just seamsealed to the support pads which water gets in and rots the floor to side seam out. The waterpumps are just a terrible design lol, I'm on my third one since I bought it in 2014. But, if it was my old f'd 150 with the Triton V8, the motor would have been shot about 110,000 kms ago...I think thats about 80,000 miles or so converted. I've never had an f'd 150 live beyond 220,00 kms before the motor was beat from typical daily driving. So there is that going for the ol Tundy...and she's sexy as h3ll

My old Ford vehicles died at like 130k miles. Say what you want about gm, but if it has oil those motors out live you. You just gotta deal with the stupid crap that happens while your alive. A small block 5.3 chevy motor is a hell of a motor

 

[mthomps]

Mandarin is better than English. More descriptive

China has dominated in engineering marvels. Only country that come close to scale is Dubai. They changed the rotational speed of the planet with the size of their dam

Machine code. Is machine code. It's the same everywhere. Your spec is the spec they hit. Gotta pay to play

Ya. Their f35 copy didn't crash into the ocean. Like ours did

Wonder why so much money is being invested into China. Must be because of the cheap crap labor.



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Your describing a concept called progess, under a system called capitalism. Aka, whoever makes it better wins. The attenps after the first are always better. Complex systems never do it right on the first try. Look at Krash's first attempt at a ready to go ski

 

[Big Kahuna]

Love how the post under this one in general is a bunch of people praising a manifold a guy in AMERICA copied from an AMERICAN manufacturer. And had China make it

Is that irony, hypocrisy, ignorance, or a whole bunch of all 3???

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Who in America is copying and American Part and having a plant in China produce it? I am on here more than anyone and have never seen this.........

 

[aboarder]

Who in America is copying and American Part and having a plant in China produce it? I am on here more than anyone and have never seen this.........

I think he's talking about a guy in Australia filling a void by doing something very similar to an American part we can't get anymore and having it produced in China with a high standard of quality.

 

[mikidymac]

You can talk crap about the Australian making Factory Pipe copies but if that American "Factory" doesn't want to make pipes or care about customers that call every week and ask them to take their money but still refuse to make more than a few a year. The same company that's patent has expired if they ever had one and used ones go for hundreds of dollars more than the few new ones that trickle in then it is that American company that is screwing up. If that American company would just make their product then there would be no reason for another person to make the same product. So you can't fault someone for making a product to fill a demand if the original company won't.

 

[Quinc]

bpipe molds are on ebay right now for 2500 if someone wants to give them a shot.

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[WFO Speedracer]

Love how the post under this one in general is a bunch of people praising a manifold a guy in AMERICA copied from an AMERICAN manufacturer. And had China make it

Is that irony, hypocrisy, ignorance, or a whole bunch of all 3???

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That guy is Australian, not American, I don't really care where the part is made, I do care about quality, so far Wax's products have been of high quality and decent prices, if you want to complain about that , show us all and start producing parts yourself

 

[JC-SuperJet]

Update on Chinese Motorcycles with Yamaha Engines

Yamaha Motor Changes Partner for Chinese Motorcycle Manufacturing Joint Venture - News releases | Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd.

global.yamaha-motor.com

"
IWATA, September 15, 2023 - Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. (Tokyo: 7272) announced today that an agreement was reached to have Chongqing Jianshe Mechanical and Electric Co., Ltd., a current partner of the Company's motorcycle manufacturing joint venture in China, Zhuzhou Jianshe Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. (ZJYM), transfer ZJYM's equity interest to ZHEJIANG CFMOTO POWER CO., LTD. (CFMOTO). The name of the new business will be ZHUZHOU CF YAMAHA MOTOR CO., LTD. (ZCYM).
This joint venture is premised on the acquisition of the clearances, permits, etc., required by competition laws and other laws and regulations.

Yamaha Motor has positioned China as one of its important production and sales bases and will continue to discuss the direction of the joint venture with CFMOTO going forward with the aim of further raising competitiveness."

 

[TheBuzzard]

The quality you get from China depends on what they send you. Nothing more nothing less. You don't get what you ask for and there ain't nothing you can do about it after you get it.

 

[kevbo]

Ive had the same experience with OEM Kawasaki parts. Everything gets boxed and shipped whether the part is good or bad. To their credit, they did take it back and send me a good one.

 

[Mike W]

Had to replace a door handle on my Tacoma yesterday. Very common for these to break. It was replaced prior by the previous owner with a Chinese part which just seemed wore out and loose which is why I replaced it. The Chinese part and OEM part looked like it was made by the same manufacturer just different markings. The OEM door handle did have Made in Japan on the packaging. Just thought that was interesting.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Had to replace a door handle on my Tacoma yesterday. Very common for these to break. It was replaced prior by the previous owner with a Chinese part which just seemed wore out and loose which is why I replaced it. The Chinese part and OEM part looked like it was made by the same manufacturer just different markings. The OEM door handle did have Made in Japan on the packaging. Just thought that was interesting.

Yep I replaced mine on my Tacoma also, it lasted a year now I am replacing it again , they say replacement parts are OEM spec but they are defiantly not , on my other Toyota I replaced the clutch with aftermarket, a couple of years later I replaced it again , this Tacoma has over 300,000 on it , OEM clutch , OEM rear brake shoes , no way in hell aftermarket parts will go that long without replacing them.

 

[aboarder]

Yep I replaced mine on my Tacoma also, it lasted a year now I am replacing it again , they say replacement parts are OEM spec but they are defiantly not , on my other Toyota I replaced the clutch with aftermarket, a couple of years later I replaced it again , this Tacoma has over 300,000 on it , OEM clutch , OEM rear brake shoes , no way in hell aftermarket parts will go that long without replacing them.

OEM spec can be OEM tolerances. Doesn't mean OEM quality of materials.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

OEM spec can be OEM tolerances. Doesn't mean OEM quality of materials.

You got that right ,

 

[mthomps]

OEM spec can be OEM tolerances. Doesn't mean OEM quality of materials.

This is the key to all of this. Its just +/- whatever. Im in aersospace. If you knew how suppliers hired, how the parts are treated, let alone the makers. ( looking at you, PCC.) Youd never fly again.

The turnover at these shops are so high they just dont care. Recently a new lead was hired and he has "works out a lot" on his resume.

 

[Jhucke]

OEM spec can be OEM tolerances. Doesn't mean OEM quality of materials.

I don't want so split hairs with what you are saying, but OEM spec will have a specific material and quality of that material called out, no doubt about it. What the china suppliers are, is OEM fitment, not OEM specification, which is really how you should think about replacement parts.

 

[waxhead]

I don't want so split hairs with what you are saying, but OEM spec will have a specific material and quality of that material called out, no doubt about it. What the china suppliers are, is OEM fitment, not OEM specification, which is really how you should think about replacement parts.

You can specify the material you want to use, This is why we use 6061 aluminum which is an international standard. We could use cheaper alloy and save money but then the quality would be down.