Blaster Yamaha Triple B1 Conversion - What Yrs, Models, Engine Codes, Etc. for a donor?

R

rabbey

Location
houston, tx
of course, the whole "getwhatchucanget" thing is gonna be a big factor,... but what are the sentiments as far as 1100, 1200, models, Yrs, PV vs. non-PV, etc?

and it goes without saying - COST IS HUGE FACTOR!!!
 
Last edited:
tshank123

tshank123

Yo hablo ingles
Location
Vegas
Do a search, there's alot of these going on right now and you'll find a ton of info.

In general though, you're choices will most likely be Yamaha 1100, Yamaha 1200, or Kawi 1100. PV motors will be next to impossible to try and fit in the hull. They barely fit in the GPR hulls.

Rad Dudes makes the conversion pretty easy for the Kawi 1100 motor. They have a kit. The Kawi is more compact and with the right setup can make more power than the Yamaha motors (or so I hear).

1200 yamaha will make more power than the 1100 yamaha because of the bigger bore and bigger carbs. The conversion is also pretty easy with some of the kits people offer like Extremethrottle.
 
701dave

701dave

Location
brisbane
136.jpgYou Blaster boyz in the states seem to have no problem finding doner engines. The only way i could do the Yami 1200 mod in aus was to buy a complete running gp1200 and rape it. over here the average Blaster costs $3500 and 98/99 model GP cost $4500. super expensive but once you have one its GAME ON. I have done a fairly indepth post in the Blaster section on OZFREERIDE which explains how to set up for the transplant. I have no idea about the kawi conversion or how a 1100 kawi would go against the 1200 yami. Mine is a genuine 135hp with no mods as yet and its a pure arm stretcher. Dave at Extreme Throttle would be the go to guy in the states for sure. He has many conversions notched up and has all the conversion parts you need right down to the rear water box. He may even have doner motors. The best thing about having a complete ski is you get the big 155mm pump. Check about that as well. in my post i do a bit about what i did to get it work , im thinking a 144mm pump will get smoked, but as i dont know of anyone else in aus even having one , im only guessing. WHOA
 
R

rabbey

Location
houston, tx
701dave said:
View attachment 204947You Blaster boyz in the states seem to have no problem finding doner engines. The only way i could do the Yami 1200 mod in aus was to buy a complete running gp1200 and rape it. over here the average Blaster costs $3500 and 98/99 model GP cost $4500. super expensive but once you have one its GAME ON. I have done a fairly indepth post in the Blaster section on OZFREERIDE which explains how to set up for the transplant. I have no idea about the kawi conversion or how a 1100 kawi would go against the 1200 yami. Mine is a genuine 135hp with no mods as yet and its a pure arm stretcher. Dave at Extreme Throttle would be the go to guy in the states for sure. He has many conversions notched up and has all the conversion parts you need right down to the rear water box. He may even have doner motors. The best thing about having a complete ski is you get the big 155mm pump. Check about that as well. in my post i do a bit about what i did to get it work , im thinking a 144mm pump will get smoked, but as i dont know of anyone else in aus even having one , im only guessing. WHOA
Click to expand...

wow, great to hear from you bro. not only have i been reading about and admiring all of your new 701 industries WB1 offerings, i'm also a huge fan of top notch machining, materials, etc. maybe since i was educated as Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering (one of the few who have enough hands on mechanical ability to be able to actually change my own flat tire on my car).

this is me : http://texasautorestoration.com/

i also have some distant ties to the land down under, brisbane in particular, my sister has been a resident there 20+ Yrs. here's her house (starting on pg 8) - http://rexabbey.com/temp/sues_house.pdf

maybe we can start a "B1 Exchange program" - you can borrow mine when visiting gulf coast in states, and vice versa.

at any rate, i was just trying to see if i could pin down any of the particulars of what i should be looking at in a donor - i.e. make, model, yr...

and yes, i have communicated w/ extremethrottle and plan on tapping into his expertise as well as purchasing some of his products.
 
964Chris

964Chris

FREEdumb obtained
Location
TEXAS
rabbey: 701 Ind USA is just down the road from you in Corpus Christi. If you ever want any of our parts let me know. We have another shipment due in before Christmas. Nice business you have going there.
 
R

rabbey

Location
houston, tx
nizzit said:
rabbey: 701 Ind USA is just down the road from you in Corpus Christi. If you ever want any of our parts let me know. We have another shipment due in before Christmas. Nice business you have going there.
Click to expand...

hey ya nizzit, good to hear from you too. i'd seen you around here before, but hadn't noticed you're from corpus!!!
 
extreemthrottle

extreemthrottle

freeride junkie
Location
north palm beach
hey rabbey,
there are a few differences to consider. obviously price is a big consideration for most, and i think thats how the whole kawi conversions came about to begin with.
being the yamaha 1200 has approx 20 more stock h.p. then the kawasaki 1100, when you add the same aftermarket goodies to it as the kawi, you still wil end up with more h.p. the fact that it comes with a nice set of mikunis is also a big draw over the cv carbs on most of the kawasakis.

that being said, they both are fairly straight forward and simple conversions. the nice things about the yamahas is that the electrical is plug and play, and the 1200 ebox mounts in the stock location without any modifications or additions to make it fit.

we are feverishly working on affordable conversion plates and mounts for the kawasaki, as well as some simple and inexpensive ways to mount the ebox.
if all goes well, we will have a really sweet display of the kawasaki and yamaha conversions in our booth at the daytona freeride for all to see.
we will premier our complete conversion kits for the kawi, as well as some really sweet goodies.

right now, we do have some shortblocks, and long blocks along with some electronics for conversions, just contact us for more info.
but we always have plenty of props, complete exhaust systems, heads, and anything else you may need for your conversions or otherwise.

thanks guys for the props and kind words about us and our products. without all of us supporting each other, this industry would not be growing as it is.

if we can help in anyway, please let us know.

and in the mean time, heres a little blaster conversion porn to get your pulse going!
thanks, dave


IMG_00033.jpg


IMG_00042.jpg


IMG_6383.jpg
 
Last edited:
R

rabbey

Location
houston, tx
dave/extreem, your the man!!!

i honestly don't have a single problem whatsoever hearing about the advantages of the yamaha over the kawasaki, so please, by all means, feel free to carry on,... but you should know - i was already leaning towards the yami since day one, and after reading/seeing your posts/products for the yami conv, well,... there's absolutely no way i'd consider going kawi!!! LOL

i'm an old school motocrosser from back in the day, and even though i've raced virtually every make/model known to man, the majority of my career was on a honda, which at that time was the best, hands down, period, end of story. however, during my career (the 80's) the yamaha was making great leaps in fit, finish, and quality each and every year. at the end of my career the yamaha's had risen to a level that was more or less on an even keel w/ the hondas. however, even though almost every year the kawasaki motors were always more powerful (sometimes a lot, sometimes a little), their reliability always left a lot to be desired in my opinion. but that mainly only came into play during the drag race to the first turn!

i just started my foray into the jet ski PWC world just this last year. i spent a couple of months doing a crazya55 amount of researching, forum chats, etc.. and i came up w/ the WB1 as my choice. and then within a couple months i ended up w/ three of em and i couldn't be happier. i have no desire whatsoever of defiling my yamaha waveblaster with a kawasaki motor... short of a free one falling outta the sky. LOL
 
scottie mac

scottie mac

X-
A full limited Kawi 1100 produces more hp than a full limited gp1200. If you don't believe me, call Tim Judge, he has dyno'd them both. Don't get carried away by the factory hp numbers, as they are rarely correct. The GP1200 motor comes with better carbs and bigger bore, but the kawi has a longer stroke and a flat top style top end. It is definitely cheaper to go the GP1200 route as it comes with the aforementioned carbs. They aren't the same 44s you get when you a set from mikuni, but they are much better than kawi non cv carbs and infinity better than cv carbs. (or as we like to call them, paperweights)

SM
 
irishblaster

irishblaster

Location
ireland
Pascal said:
irish blaster, i think that ski in your avtar is my mate adams old ski, it hit real hard with the ported loki motor in it!
Click to expand...
Ten outa ten man...that is Adams ski,my first love is blasters tho...I've being up north on the blaster and met Adam and his crew down south so maybe we've met??
 
extreemthrottle

extreemthrottle

freeride junkie
Location
north palm beach
evo8coop said:
you have anymore pics of the back? where the water box is?
Click to expand...
i have a couple, what are you looking for?

scottie mac said:
A full limited Kawi 1100 produces more hp than a full limited gp1200. If you don't believe me, call Tim Judge, he has dyno'd them both. Don't get carried away by the factory hp numbers, as they are rarely correct. The GP1200 motor comes with better carbs and bigger bore, but the kawi has a longer stroke and a flat top style top end. It is definitely cheaper to go the GP1200 route as it comes with the aforementioned carbs. They aren't the same 44s you get when you a set from mikuni, but they are much better than kawi non cv carbs and infinity better than cv carbs. (or as we like to call them, paperweights)

agreed for the most part with ya scottie. they both make there peak power in different rpm ranges.the kawi does take well to some a/m goodies too. in keeping with the stock or close to stock format, the yamaha imo is the better, and less expensive bet. they both have the pros and cons for sure. the kawasaki seems to be a bit smaller in size, but that pipe makes up for the weight difference.

SM
Click to expand...

701dave said:
Ha Dave G, what pump size you like to run and prop size. i run a 15x19 scat swirl. seems perfect but whats your take on it.
Click to expand...

hey dave,
currently been using the stock 144 pump, with a big hub prop. we really like the solas 12 vein 144 as well. have seen really good results with solas 15/22-16/23 even a 14/21. just depends on entire setup and what your going for in the end.
we carry them in stock if you need one.
we havent done a 155 pump conversion yet, but from what i know about swapping it, the hassle of making it fit outweighs the benefit.




IMG_0006.jpg


blaster12build015.jpg
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom