Yamahammers X-2

Location
NY
Not all small pins have the same porting. not all large pins have the same. The 750SX cylinder was the best for bottomend. the XIR was a good cylinder too.

Shawn, i dont have a 701 in mine but it is 701 based...
 

shawn_NJ

Chasing waves.
Location
Daytona Beach
I agree with Wedo and Crab

I have a 97 SXI Pro motor bored to 780 in one of my X2's. It makes ALOT of power from mid to top, but the low end is lacking. I also have anothe X2 with a 750 small pin (SX cylinder) rips much harder down low. Both have same carb, same pipe, same prop.

What electric are you going to use?
 

Scorn800

Ride for life
Location
North NJ
The big pin motor is fine you just need to prop down to get more low end.
He's going to be running a dry pipe so he wants more rpms up top anyway.
 
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Crab

thanks darin...noswad!
Location
Seattle
Drypipe in the X2? Hansen is the only one I have seen, and its an ugly beast but fast.
 

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Crab

thanks darin...noswad!
Location
Seattle
I'm doing the 61x conversion on another one I have, with factory B, stock pump setup. I may also cut all the weight possible off it as well.
 

dbrutherford

Parts Whore
Location
Fairmont, WV
You can run the 650 electrics if you drill/tap/clearence the cases for the 650 stator. Be warned the rev limiter is lower on the 650 compared to the 750.

If you google Group K + Kawasaki there is a bunch of articles on the Kawie port layouts. Basically everyone says the small pins made the most low end. the 98 SXi Pro is more mid to top end engine though. I know someone who had one with a dry pipe. When they came out with the 800, they lowered the exhaust ports.

I have a pic of a dry pipe in an X2, they had to clerance the hull to make it work. I will try and find the pic, it may be at home. I want to try and use the 750 dry pipe manifold, but use a Yamaha chamber of sorts. If that doesn't work... Blowsion sells an adapter plate that mounts to the Kawie cylinder and then lets you use a yamaha manifold.


As far as the pump swap goes... the 750 pump will bolt right in. However you will need to use a 750 SX intake grate. It will need cut and rewelded shorter though. Or you can weld a piece of metal to a 650 grate to make it longer. It needs the "T" looking piece like a 750 grate has.

Then you will need to make a pump shoe or cut one off of a 650 pump. I plan to chop one off of a junk 650 pump. Then perhaps make a mold and make one out of fiberglass. I have seen threads on PWCT where others have used a metal 750 pump shoe, I believe a 750 SS or STS has one stock. Then it must be milled or grinded down to fit right.

The last easiest part is that teh X2 ride plate needs to be notched for clearance aroudn the "T" piece of metal on teh intake grate.


I plan to use a 750 pump, TBM stuffer, and a mag prop in my X2 build that keeps getting delayed...


Any more ??? just ask, you already have two X2 guru's watching the thread in Crab and Shawn.
 

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You can run the 650 electrics if you drill/tap/clearence the cases for the 650 stator. Be warned the rev limiter is lower on the 650 compared to the 750.

If you google Group K + Kawasaki there is a bunch of articles on the Kawie port layouts. Basically everyone says the small pins made the most low end. the 98 SXi Pro is more mid to top end engine though. I know someone who had one with a dry pipe. When they came out with the 800, they lowered the exhaust ports.

I have a pic of a dry pipe in an X2, they had to clerance the hull to make it work. I will try and find the pic, it may be at home. I want to try and use the 750 dry pipe manifold, but use a Yamaha chamber of sorts. If that doesn't work... Blowsion sells an adapter plate that mounts to the Kawie cylinder and then lets you use a yamaha manifold.


As far as the pump swap goes... the 750 pump will bolt right in. However you will need to use a 750 SX intake grate. It will need cut and rewelded shorter though. Or you can weld a piece of metal to a 650 grate to make it longer. It needs the "T" looking piece like a 750 grate has.

Then you will need to make a pump shoe or cut one off of a 650 pump. I plan to chop one off of a junk 650 pump. Then perhaps make a mold and make one out of fiberglass. I have seen threads on PWCT where others have used a metal 750 pump shoe, I believe a 750 SS or STS has one stock. Then it must be milled or grinded down to fit right.

The last easiest part is that teh X2 ride plate needs to be notched for clearance aroudn the "T" piece of metal on teh intake grate.


I plan to use a 750 pump, TBM stuffer, and a mag prop in my X2 build that keeps getting delayed...


Any more ??? just ask, you already have two X2 guru's watching the thread in Crab and Shawn.


Cool, thank you very much for the advice and the pics, like I said we are starting on it next week and hope to get this one done as fast as possible :biggrin:
 
i used a pump shoe out off a sxr when i did my 750 pump conversion . you have to grind the front off the shoe and the area where the scoop grate goes in . i also used a 650 scoop grate and welded the tee onto it to match the 750 pump .i didnt try and match up a 750 scoop grate but i did try a sxr 800 one and they are alot longer so you would have to set back the pump or cut it and reweld it to the right length

here is a couple off pics from when i did mine the first is the pump shoe ground up and sitting in there
the second is the t i welded to the scoop grate
and the last is what i had to cut out the ride plate to match it u to the pump and scoop grate to get it to fit
the shoe ground up ready to glue in
and a back view off the shoe glued in ,i fill the area round the top off the pump with filler powder mixed with resin to make nice and smooth flow into the pump

hope thats a wee bit off help and makes it a wee bit easer for you
 

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dbrutherford

Parts Whore
Location
Fairmont, WV
Here is a pic of a 750 pump that has the holes in it for the pump shoe to bolt up to. Then you can see the mounts on the pump shoe that goe into it. I am not 100% sure but I think it is from a 750 STS. Also here is a pic of a Jet Dynamics pump shoe I once bought. It had the mounts on it too. It was a hair too wide to fit in the 650 pump shoe either. Also the curve is different compared to a 650 shoe. Anyway, I ma confiednt you guys can make a 750 pump work. The 750 dry pipe... you will have some fiberglassing to do...
 

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yamahammer

are you men the police?
Location
San Angelo, TX
who's the lucky one who gets to break out the grinder?

FX69boy is the runt of the group so he gets bullied into any fiber glass duty--- Bob fabricates and paints--- I drink, talk poop, break the boats, and myself.......pretty good setup if you ask me:fing02::clown:
 

FX-6.9 Boy

VILLIGE IDIOT
FX69boy is the runt of the group so he gets bullied into any fiber glass duty--- Bob fabricates and paints--- I drink, talk poop, break the boats, and myself.......pretty good setup if you ask me:fing02::clown:

Somehow I think I'm gettin' screwed on this deal...:twak:
 
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