2014 Krash Footrocket - First AM build

Location
Stockton
In fact, we even swapped in a buddies Epic on a day it was causing backfiring, kicking back on cranking and had even kicked the engine into running backwards after landing a jump and It ran perfect in my ski. If voltage drop is the culprit, I should have seen at least some sign of issue should I not?

OCD, I run the epic with your tidy bilge set up wired to the ebox without issues as well. Most of the time the bilge is off as the scupper handles the water evacuation, but often I run the bilge for a little while riding to check my if scupper hung open, still no running issues...

I've had some slight kick back on cranking too but it's funny you mentioned run backwards, I've seen what I thought was engine running backwards too. Ive had a lean misfire in hot summer weather cause it I believe, went away after low and high speed adjustment.

Then recently I switched to a lay down pipe with the water box real low and I confirmed water back flow into the engine at certain times while re-boarding or loading ski on the trailer.

On my set up wake approach going slow, after I popped the nose and let off the gas bringing nose down, then full throttle it would happen, about toss me over the bars. It seemed to be running on one cylinder and/or backwards and I'd have to kill the engine and restart it.

Mixture adjustment did nothing this time so I wondered if it was more back flow issue, "water extinguishing the spark in the rear cylinder", (my stinger was below the outside lake water level) so I had water in the pipe or at the stinger waiting to come in.

I raised the water box 3 inches and no more issue so far.

I thought it might be the epic too, did you guys get your buds figured out ? Sounds like it was the epic in your case ?
 

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
Location
Rentz, GA
Interesting point on raising the waterbox. My bud was running a B-pipe with a stock waterbox so backflow shouldn't have been an issue with him. Unfortunately, his Epic was lent out to another bud and toasted so we were never able to do any further testing. He ended up with the 2nd generation Epic and has been running good ever since on the same system components as before so the HX3 redesign appears to have been very successful.

It's never been disclosed what the actual issue was either so one can only assume that it was easier to make it more forgiving than address all the possible external influences. And that's where I am fixated. I am determined to someday understanding what that external influence is and offer a resolution for all 1st gen Epic owners but it's slow going and I have plenty of distractions. Since my ski handles the Epic, I feel like the answer lies within my reach. "Success leaves clues".
 
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Is that just cosmetic?! I've stuffed the nose in the bottom plenty of times on mine with no structural damage. I don't even get the scuffs because I have that clear plastic film on the front of my skis that they put on cars to protect the front end from rock chips...
 

westjon86

Blast eet!
Location
Philly
Yea, just cosmetic, rocky bottom in the delaware river, not sand. I'll have to smooth it out with some epoxy and paint over it. I didn't even realize until I got home never felt it hit when I was riding.
 

Yami-Rider

TigerCraft FV-PRO
Location
Texoma
Is that just cosmetic?! I've stuffed the nose in the bottom plenty of times on mine with no structural damage. I don't even get the scuffs because I have that clear plastic film on the front of my skis that they put on cars to protect the front end from rock chips...


Good idea on the clear film, where do you get it? Is it like vinyl wrap just clear?

Glad to hear its just cosmetic, looks bad :(.
 
I used the same stuff on my Footrocket, it's called 3M paint protection film, I bought mine on Amazon. It works great, I bounced my Footrocket off bottom a few times learning flips and there was not a scuff on the nose.
 

westjon86

Blast eet!
Location
Philly
Here is some better video footage. I'm getting closer. I'm having more success with the slide flip than using my wake. Any advice is appreciated. Updated the second video, didn't mean to upload the slo-mo.


 
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Looking good. Try going a little slower though... I can't flip my Foot Rocket off a setup wake, but looks like you're hitting the wave too fast. You want more momentum going up and you have too much going forward...
You have a very comparable setup to mine, and I can get all the way around on the 180 slide flips. Is your ride plate cut short?
 

westjon86

Blast eet!
Location
Philly
Looking good. Try going a little slower though... I can't flip my Foot Rocket off a setup wake, but looks like you're hitting the wave too fast. You want more momentum going up and you have too much going forward...
You have a very comparable setup to mine, and I can get all the way around on the 180 slide flips. Is your ride plate cut short?

Yes, its cut down pretty short.
 
Search up one of the many threads on setup wakes. Your setup wake attempt was kind of a little S turn and then you turned and hit it. Make a "U" or a "V" and work on timing your launch when the two wakes meet and are at their peak. Some hit the first wave, some the second. You can tweak the wake with speed, trim, and distance (how big or tight of a "U" or "V" you make). You get that even half way close and you'll be around in no time.
 
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