300/440/550 212 HP 650cc X2

you dont need a dyno to measure hp you can use mathimatics i'll have to get the formula for it but its not to hard once you got it just plug all your numbers in. like stroke, displacement, compresion, electrical system and some more. it wont be excat but it will give you a [pretty good idea on wat hp you are ruinnin


i have seen that before, its close but not that accurate.
 

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Well I would love to read that full write up...

Hey X2, why don't you just make a few posts of your write up? I am sure we all would enjoy reading it... Even the non believers and believers alike...


Cut/copy/paste the first 1/3 in one post, the next 1/3 in a second post, and last 1/3 in a final post?
 

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how is that non-polluting? :dunno:


I t is nonpolluting because it is isobutane based and 95% of it is burned in the combustion process and turns into water vapor.It also adds power because of the isobutane base composition.I guess nonpolluting is a misnomer as all internal combustion engines are polluting four stroke or otherwise,I believe that is why they refer to it as low smoke,low emissions .
 
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I have a few pieces of machinery at home. A 3 axis NC Verticle, Lathe, and a Devlieg horizontal boring mill. The cases and cylinder were made at work on a 5 axis nc mill. I plotted some tooling balls in key areas. This allowed me to use the same pick ups all the way around. The less set ups and movement...the more accurate. PICK UP THE NEW WEST TECH magazine there is a picture of a BILLET 502 Chevy big block made on a 5 axis ingresoll rand Horizontal. IMPRESSIVE.

I am not going to post pictures just yet...its not complete......and there are some items in there I dont want the wrong eyes to view......little patience.

As far as the $50 hull is concerned add another $12,000 to that..This is a custom hull, very enhanced, sheet aluminum and carbon fiber.....It is a 2 piece hull, which has been o-ringed and bolted, top and bottom sheet. It would be nearly impossible to work on this ski. I set this 2 hulls up on a horizontal boring mill and used a stylus(tracer). This allowed me to get the existing numbers of the hull. Then manipulate, to get the numbers I wanted. I saw a fellow on here with a Red X2 that did some extensive work to the bottom of the hull.........I like it......I have leaned twords a similar shape....1 big diferrence, I cut from seem line back at 38 degree angle, this eliminated a lot of the V and the chines. This was fit with a one piece sheet aluminum nose. Also, there is no hood, its a solid one piece top sheet.
Here is another hard to swallow piece of info.....This complete ski should......(should) weigh 221lbs.
 
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I have a few pieces of machinery at home. A 3 axis NC Verticle, Lathe, and a Devlieg horizontal boring mill. The cases and cylinder were made at work on a 5 axis nc mill. I plotted some tooling balls in key areas. This allowed me to use the same pick ups all the way around. The less set ups and movement...the more accurate. PICK UP THE NEW WEST TECH magazine there is a picture of a BILLET 502 Chevy big block made on a 5 axis ingresoll rand Horizontal. IMPRESSIVE.

I am not going to post pictures just yet...its not complete......and there are some items in there I dont want the wrong eyes to view......little patience.

As far as the $50 hull is concerned add another $12,000 to that..This is a custom hull, very enhanced, sheet aluminum and carbon fiber.....It is a 2 piece hull, which has been o-ringed and bolted, top and bottom sheet. It would be nearly impossible to work on this ski. I set this 2 hulls up on a horizontal boring mill and used a stylus(tracer). This allowed me to get the existing numbers of the hull. Then manipulate, to get the numbers I wanted. I saw a fellow on here with a Red X2 that did some extensive work to the bottom of the hull.........I like it......I have leaned twords a similar shape....1 big diferrence, I cut from seem line back at 38 degree angle, this eliminated a lot of the V and the chines. This was fit with a one piece sheet aluminum nose. Also, there is no hood, its a solid one piece top sheet.
Here is another hard to swallow piece of info.....This complete ski should......(should) weigh 221lbs.


is this same type of stylus that would be used with something solid works and autocad in order to prototype parts? and is the hull a combination of glass and sheet aluminum or one piece of stamped sheet aluminum with carbon fiber reinforcement?

if you have taken that v out of the hull won't you be essentially running a flat bottom boat? won't that ruin the handling characteristics of the hull.... most had more of a v to the hull to improve handling similar to what they do on the mod blaster hulls and some of the carbon aftermarket blaster hulls.

and i have another question but i thing i answered already but you o-ringed the top and bottom decks together so if you have to work on the ski it would be easier to do since there is no hood on because of the one-piece nose cone?

and the other question i have and hopefully you have thought of this already is..... will it float?
 
You guys can knock this guy if you want..... but I bet he is smarter then anyone on this forum!

This guy knows to much of what he is talking about to be a fake. IMO

I cant wait to see the outcome....

Very impressive weight # :bigeyes:

If all his calculations end up correct, he will probably have the best power to weight ratio of any PWC..... The 1200 rev is 268lbs...... HP unknown, correct?
 
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After acheving number of the original hull. I plotted aluminum blocks on that oem hole. Then a program was wrote that will give you (hard number) contours, radius,ect. Now you have a shape. This is a carbon with aluminum fused in it. Holes were then drilled in the original hole and taped off. A series of vacum lines were placed in the holes. Now you begin shapping the hull section for section. The autoclaved. The vacuum was now started.....to cure the carbon fiber and maintain shape.

When I say the nose was cut back and replaced with aluminum. That would be From "Y" centerline. Thus maintaining the 2 halves.

Almost a flatbottom. X centerline to X 6.660 and X-6.660 is completely flat from nose to begining of pump section. From here splits into 2 deep skags @ X 10.00 and -X 10.00
 
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Well I would love to read that full write up...

Hey X2, why don't you just make a few posts of your write up? I am sure we all would enjoy reading it... Even the non believers and believers alike...


Cut/copy/paste the first 1/3 in one post, the next 1/3 in a second post, and last 1/3 in a final post?

im still waiting on page two !
 
After acheving number of the original hull. I plotted aluminum blocks on that oem hole. Then a program was wrote that will give you (hard number) contours, radius,ect. Now you have a shape. This is a carbon with aluminum fused in it. Holes were then drilled in the original hole and taped off. A series of vacum lines were placed in the holes. Now you begin shapping the hull section for section. The autoclaved. The vacuum was now started.....to cure the carbon fiber and maintain shape.

When I say the nose was cut back and replaced with aluminum. That would be From "Y" centerline. Thus maintaining the 2 halves.

Almost a flatbottom. X centerline to X 6.660 and X-6.660 is completely flat from nose to begining of pump section. From here splits into 2 deep skags @ X 10.00 and -X 10.00
Its 10:14 in the morning on friday and your light is on ! arent you at work building this thing ? PS : dont you KNOW any body with a camera ?? and im still waiting on page two !
 
After acheving number of the original hull. I plotted aluminum blocks on that oem hole. Then a program was wrote that will give you (hard number) contours, radius,ect. Now you have a shape. This is a carbon with aluminum fused in it. Holes were then drilled in the original hole and taped off. A series of vacum lines were placed in the holes. Now you begin shapping the hull section for section. The autoclaved. The vacuum was now started.....to cure the carbon fiber and maintain shape.

When I say the nose was cut back and replaced with aluminum. That would be From "Y" centerline. Thus maintaining the 2 halves.

Almost a flatbottom. X centerline to X 6.660 and X-6.660 is completely flat from nose to begining of pump section. From here splits into 2 deep skags @ X 10.00 and -X 10.00


that answers my question about the hull but was i correct in what the use of the stylus was for and how the two hull sections were joined?
 

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I don't blame him for not posting pics,I will not post pics of the pressure tester I developed either,there is too much time and money involved in its development to post up pics so someone can steal your ideas and make a fortune before you can even get your patent in hand.
 
I don't blame him for not posting pics,I will not post pics of the pressure tester I developed either,there is too much time and money involved in its development to post up pics so someone can steal your ideas and make a fortune before you can even get your patent in hand.


#1. Patents are essentially worthless for the everyday person. Unless you are an attorney or have alot of spare jack floating around and feel like spending the rest of your days defending your patent.

#2. The picture request was more of a put up or shutup type deal.

#3. Steal his ideas-are you serious? You mean steal his ideas with the CNC mills, lathes, ski-sized autoclaves and no doubt water jet machines that we all have stashed in out garages.

Crack me up!!!
 

WFO Speedracer

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#1. Patents are essentially worthless for the everyday person. Unless you are an attorney or have alot of spare jack floating around and feel like spending the rest of your days defending your patent.

#2. The picture request was more of a put up or shutup type deal.

#3. Steal his ideas-are you serious? You mean steal his ideas with the CNC mills, lathes, ski-sized autoclaves and no doubt water jet machines that we all have stashed in out garages.

Crack me up!!!

Ollie no one said or is trying to say that anyone here would try to steal anyones ideas,what I am saying is that when you post pics on a publicly viewed forum they then become fair game.This is the internet,they don't call it the world wide web because 5 people in Canada are viewing it.You crack me up I mean seriously put the bong away.:haha: :haha:
 
Why do people still climb Everest.....I mean its nothing new. Lots of people have already done it...........P.S. small bore two strokes make far more power then small bore 4's

Show some pics or just STFU ! sorry im not really like this its just some threads just out the worst in a person ! Ill bet you dont even ride on the water with an inner tube ! what a D#uch
 
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