wydopen
onthepipe
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- Goleta the Goodland
maybe im not seeing this right...you used two sheets and made a seam on the unfilled bondline???...i just dont see how you could do that without creating airbubbles??
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24-7 backflip 7mm lamey build
- Thread starter HBCwatercraft
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maybe im not seeing this right...you used two sheets and made a seam on the unfilled bondline???...i just dont see how you could do that without creating airbubbles??
Big Kahuna
Administrator
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
I did not do this. I am with you, personally I would foam the void in. but if he layed up glass/carbon and forced it into the crease then came back and layed another layer on just the top half. It is possible to not have air bubbles......... Who are you or I to say that he did or did not have air bubbles.
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
im not saying it did or didnt just wondering how he did it..aad was questioning his statement that the bond line dosnt need to be filled thats all :shrug:
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Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
I prefer filling with foam vs filling it solid with resin (weight).
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
I can understand that....WAY cheaper too
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
jesus,2 pg on this ********...I LAYED CARBON A WHOLE SHEET TOP TO BOTTOM,THEN HAD SCRAP,USED THAT TO DOUBLE UP THE TOP..?THERES NO F...IN AIR BUBBLES.I don't
want credit nor do i want critism...no skin off my back,ill just post pics of the ski when
it's completey done and built? Im just looking for new people to talk to on my off time
ect.I don't need 2 pg of how im doing things.Thanks like BIG K said theres diff ways
to skin a cat...this is my way.
want credit nor do i want critism...no skin off my back,ill just post pics of the ski when
it's completey done and built? Im just looking for new people to talk to on my off time
ect.I don't need 2 pg of how im doing things.Thanks like BIG K said theres diff ways
to skin a cat...this is my way.
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
The amount i used added no weight,i tapped just a little in the crease..then carbon
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
why would you post a step by step buildup of your ski if you dont want constructive critisism???...no one is making fun of you or telling you that you are stupid..they are just giving you some suggestions..thats the only way to learn unless you are an expert already..
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That makes sense. I didn't fill the seam either. Then there is the whole grind or don't grind the ribs off debate....
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
ya but its done aready,so why tell me another way to do it,iv looed at the foam way
and i didnt agee with it so i went my way.Im just kidding im not going to stop my build
due to people and there oppinions.
and i didnt agee with it so i went my way.Im just kidding im not going to stop my build
due to people and there oppinions.
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
theres always next time!!! :thinkerg:
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
There is so many ways to do things,if everyone put in there oppinion my thread
goes into a debate,this is not what im looking for.
goes into a debate,this is not what im looking for.
crammit442
makin' legs
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- here
I don't know if it's thicker or not, but it's NOT stronger. The bottom half is relatively weak SMC and the top is long strand hand laid glass.
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
I guess ill have u build my ski for next time..
crammit442
makin' legs
- Location
- here
The foam is the weak link if done that way. Filling the gap is ONLY done to provide a smooth transition so the glass can be laid w/o leaving a void so the halves can be tied together as a unit. The gap only needs to be filled enough to get rid of any "butt crack" that exist at the joint. If thickened epoxy is used you will add almost no weight and the top and bottom can be effectively joined. When flexed the foam WILL seperate from either the hull or the new reinforcement. Once that happens you have the early stages of delamination.
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
I 100% agree with that,mine has a nice roll from gap to gap after i layed a little
glass in the crack.
glass in the crack.
Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
my old hull cracked on the left and right side above the bond line. none below except at the right rear from roll attemps.
like I had said before, Maros use to only re-inforce the top side, at least on some ski's that I have seen pics of them.
Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
How about giving Wamilton a call, I believe that is how he does them. My hull that I have now was painted and prepped by wammer. that how it is done. and it got abused by Pat Bogart early on in his career when he would have been much rougher on them than he is now, then FL Superjet had it to learn on, then RoyalFlush trashed on it for a while........ yes, there some some cracks around the nose area but looks mostly from flex in the clear coat. No issues along the bond line.
and yes, it is used to "Fill the gap"
But like I said, there is always 2 ways..........
Just like making legs, you got a right leg and then a left leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
- Location
- HOLLAND MA.
144 12 vein mag pump on the way shortly,Paul had bad news for me.The 7mm RAD crank that was being rebilt for me had issues.So now getting a good deal on a 8mm billit crankworks crank new.