Freestyle Affordable Power......... It's COMING
- Thread starter scottie mac
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849tigerbotkv1
formerly ihate5mphzone
- Location
- where i can ride 2stroke
I should've but at that time i only have the kawi bb motor setup with all the kawi parts(like the mag pump etc) plus money is tight at that time, now i just sold some extra stuff and have money to upgrade.
Freakrider
X247
- Location
- Tampa Bay area
Yeah reason for the ha ha on the trade...I ride lots of flatwater too so more power is fun, yesterday I got a plate to plate boat wake flip with ease and it will 180 hop flip very nicely too; all while being detuned a lot.
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
Nice! If I rode flatwater I'd need all the help I could get
Bobert540
Site Supporter
- Location
- Rockford,MI
Why buy a bigger motor and detune it when you can save money with a smaller motor if you don't need the power?
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
Throttle control. Linear power from top to bottom, you decide how much you want to use instead of light switch power that needs to be on the pipe. Dasa 850 doesn't impress me anymore than a big bore 62t. Stroker motors require more maintenance. I've liked some XS865/900s but it's more money for less power and still lacks bottom end. The decision was simple for me.
As for an 1105 in surf, I can't speak for that
As for an 1105 in surf, I can't speak for that
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masterblaster
X-H2
you referring to the xfs with the orange dasa head?
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
I believe so. I don't deny it was likely due to some pump tuning and setup issues but being a 10mil on race gas it should be much more impressive.
It made good power so it wasn't a major mechanical issue. Mostly pump tuning IMO. I don't know exact tuning specs on it but it lacked bottom end then lit up in the mid range . Looking through the intake grate the leading edges of impeller didn't appear to be very steep. It does have a stock bore reduction nozzle on a 148 pump so it needs to be bored which may free up some revs down low and allow it to come alive sooner.
My only point was that engine was a 10mil stroker that had decent jetting and a very stout package of complimenting parts so I expected more especially considering build cost in comparison to mine.
It made good power so it wasn't a major mechanical issue. Mostly pump tuning IMO. I don't know exact tuning specs on it but it lacked bottom end then lit up in the mid range . Looking through the intake grate the leading edges of impeller didn't appear to be very steep. It does have a stock bore reduction nozzle on a 148 pump so it needs to be bored which may free up some revs down low and allow it to come alive sooner.
My only point was that engine was a 10mil stroker that had decent jetting and a very stout package of complimenting parts so I expected more especially considering build cost in comparison to mine.
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KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
It made good power so it wasn't a major mechanical issue. Mostly pump tuning IMO. A Dasa with a PFP needs TL to have any bottom end
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- Location
- Cleveland, Ohio
Man i need to try a TPE...
ktm454 these are some pretty big claims ...
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
How so? Keep in mind the TPE is at 180psi compression and stock stroke. I have stock flywheel, MSD enhancer, mag pump with stock reduction nozzle bore and 46mm carbs. I haven't tried everyone's setup out there. Some make more power than others so which claim bothers you? I'm not the first to say a big bore 62t/61x makes better power than some billet 850s, Matt_E has made that claim about his 771 and Art prefers the OEM cylinder over the billet options out there just for their port shapes and angles that a billet engine is limited with. The XS865/900 engines I rode made good power and I liked them. The TPE makes more power yet costs less. I think those claims were pretty conservative. I'm just sharing my opinion and giving you the comparisons that gave me my opinion rather than just coming here and saying it's the best without any comparisons which would give me zero credibility. Sorry if that offends you
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Dude ,im not offended in any way .also nothing bothers me about your writing > i just think your claiming big things where others are proven is all . we will see . to me instead of proving with numbers of longevity and success your choosing to talk about others with a personal biased review ,is all
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
Fair enough. I can't tell you how long mine will last but I don't plan on running it until my crank grenades either. I think a lot of an engines life depends on the owner. As long as my top end outlasts my crank I'd say its build for longevity. That's another thing I like about this cylinder... The port designs make it unnecessary to run 200psi compression for good power. At the end of the day I'd still have fun riding with a stock 701. I'm just making conversation since everyone acts so suprised when someone new says a TPE964 made more power than a comparable cc stroker motor.
Have you tried a TPE?
Have you tried a TPE?
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KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
I only give comparisons to avoid looking like a fanboy with no basis for my opinion, it's not to bash other engine manufacturers. A lot of people haven't tried a TPE but may have tried the other engines I relate it to. And I don't mean to come on here bashing my friends setups to prove anything. Both the xs900ss owner and the Dasa 1000 10mil owner told me my TPE made more power without me mentioning anything about it. I think the 10mil could be improved upon with tuning but as it stands those were our findings
NVJAY775
My home away from home.
- Location
- Gardnerville, Nevada, United States
I'm looking forward to trying some other manufacturers motors in the future. I don't have anything to compare to. But up here at 5,000' the 964 with 178 psi is a friggin beast. I came off a 781, so this is a very welcome change. It's opened up more tricks for me, which is awesome. Linear useable power everywhere is a lot of fun. When I went down to 500' elevation to ride with my old 781 the power increase was awesome. I don't care what you do to your setup, high elevation sucks the power right out of a motor. Really looking forward to getting this 964 down there this summer and see how it feels. Swapping domes to keep it on pump gas though.
Really liking the stories TPE owners are posting though. Good reads.
Really liking the stories TPE owners are posting though. Good reads.
masterblaster
X-H2
The tpe does make power,but you have picked the wrong 1000 cc to compare to. Ive ridden that ski and others like it,where most big money parts were thrown at it, but a good tuner? this left much to desire. thats the nicest way I could think to say it...lol
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
You went from the biggest TPE supporter/promoter/believer to the biggest scepticist... Not sure what happened there but seems fishy. You can take the Dasa and I'll stick with my 964