- Location
- amarillo ,tx
Custom/Hybrid Aftermarket Hull Registration and HIN Talk
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OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
Yes, it is illegal but that has also been the most common method for many years. It comes with risk and limitations so many of us started to do it the right way and the more of us that do it, the easier and more educated we can all become about doing it the right way.
shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
NJ info:
The key to dealing with government agencies is to give them only the details absoluely required by law, and use the correct (ie. their) terminology. You are following the law by doing this, so let the law work for you!!
You have the state police inspection report filled out. That is half the battle!
You definitely need a receipt for materials used to construct this homemade boat hull.... Again remember you are registering a homemade BOAT (most definetly not a jetski/pwc/"kit"/or anything else). In NJ a homemade jetski....is a homemade BOAT. End of story. This is a KEY detail....just a homemade boat hull. You can ask whatever company you purchased your AM hull from to give you a receipt for "homemade boat supplies" clearly showing amount paid. Ideally you will have this receipt notarized, but past experience is that this is not always required. You should have this receipt ready to show the DMV cost of materials. Remember...You are NOT registering the motor, hand pole, pump, or any of that stuff. You are registering a homemade hull. You can bolt all those things on to your homemade boat hull after its registered.
Now game time: Go to dmv and tell them that you have the state police completed form OS/SS-10A, "HIN inspection document" for a homemade BOAT. Tell them you need to complete form BA-51 to register a small homemade boat (again do NOT say JETSKI, or that you did not build it, as that is not relevant information to the process of registering a homemade BOAT hull). Now show them your notorized receipt for your "homemade boat supplies". Give no more info then that, you are not required too. Play stupid, fill out your form OS/SS-10A, mark that its a fiberglass, inboard/outboard, boat that's 7' long. Smile, be polite, pay your $60... and they will hand you a NJ issued HIN plate and HIN numbers, with registration card. Winning!
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speedysprocket
Alex
- Location
- Chesapeake, VA
Nope. Krash has a serial number on my hull. I presented that to a lady at CT DMV with certificate of origin and receipt showing what I paid for it. Add in $12 and I had a registration that said 2013 Krash Foot Rocket. If your hull has any sort of identification number on it, CT let's you use that as the HIN. It sure beat the whole marine police inspection stuff that happens in Virginia where I live...
- Location
- Cape May Court House, NJ
I def gave the DMV too much info, should have played dumb.
If my hull had serial number I would be registered already.
Calling dmv headquarters at lunch, I'll update after
If my hull had serial number I would be registered already.
Calling dmv headquarters at lunch, I'll update after
shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
Its homemade. Just make a serial number up. Take a sharpie marker and write it on the firewall...lol. You homemade the 'boat', you can assign it a serial number.
- Location
- amarillo ,tx
Hell yeah makes since
makejetskiinggreatagain
Brandon
why don't hull companies throw a hin tag on the hull with the serial number on it? that way, if the serial number can be used as the hin the customer is good to go. would that work or not?
shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
Hull companies cannot throw a USCG registered HIN tag on unless they are delivering a full assembled boat. Most AM hulls come with serial numbers. My rickter has one. These are just made up numbers that the company uses to identify an individual hull for warranty or serice purposes. Most states do not give a crap about the serial number. NJ classifies some hulls as "HIN not issued" when the state police inspect the hull, and determine that you did not really build it... but the manf also did not issue a HIN. The DMV might ask for a serial number in these cases. Most of the time the State Police just select "homemade" and the serial number is completely irrelevant to the registration process.
makejetskiinggreatagain
Brandon
oh. I guess I was under the impression that sometimes the DMV will just use the serial number AS the HIN. My mistake.
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- amarillo ,tx
That's my thing how the heck am I going to get theme to believe I built it
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shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
Not sure the rules in TX. But if it needs to get inspected, make a binder of pictures of the build photos, buckets of resin, molds ect. I am sure Tony would send you some pics for this. If you need police inspection, most of the time they are just doing it to make sure its not a stolen ski that you are trying to get a clean title for. I told the police I bought a "kit" and printed out the RRP website to show them. They asked if it was ever registered before, I said no. I always recommend bringing a bare hull in for inspection. They took a look at the hull for a manf issued HIN, which there was none, filled out my inspection report and I was out in 10mins. They did take time to make fun of me for spending 6k on a hunk of fiberglass. But that was fine because 20min later at DMV I had a NJ HIN plate issued. I have done the NJ process twice without any issue.
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OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
You are building a boat, not a hull. The hull builder is just a subcontractor providing a fixture. The HIN is issued to the builder of the assembled, complete RTR boat.
- Location
- amarillo ,tx
Thx its bout the same in tx gotta go through tx parks and wildlife though.
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N3vrSat1sfied
Military Member
- Location
- Fort Worth, TX
not to mention most insurance companies wont put 20k on a 95 wave raider
but that is all in this thread: http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/how-do-you-insure-your-am-hull-build.132143/
shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
Luckily for us PWC are considered a boat, and the term "boat" casts a VERY wide definition. Legally you can attach a trolling motor to the nose of your empty hull, and thats enough to be considered a homemade boat that must be registered in NJ...lol
- Location
- Houston, TX
My experience with TPWD is that it all depends on the clerk and how they are feeling/how nice you are to them. I've never registered a home built, but I've dealt with missing title issues and tracking down ownership history. I've researched the home built laws here and the process doesn't seem too bad. If I recall correctly, the hull does need to be brought to the TPWD office for an inspection. There is a document on the TPWD site somewhere that outlines exactly what is needed and even specifically says that a HIN will be issued by TPWD if not present on a home built.
Go early in the morning and with a smile. Like all of us, they get more irritable as the day goes on and the number of stupid people they have dealt with increases. Good luck, keep us posted how it goes.
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- amarillo ,tx
I received my invoice from Tigercraft. It has like a part number and a description and what I paid My question is do I still try to do it as home built or do I just tell theme it's an aftermarket hull