Anyone with type 9 experience

[MADMAT]

If you are not a good tuner your type 4 of 9 will not make good low end. If you are a good tuner , your dry pipe setup will make more power than a B Pipe .,bottom /mid/and top end . Period.

I call BS. Just looking at the coupler diameter of the pipes (B and 4 or 9) you can see that the B will let more combustion out quicker. Which leads to more brap out of the hole which no tuner can do without a lot of CC's IMO on a drypipe.

4's and 9's completely suck for anyone in this forum. Period. I don't care how much you put behind them...if you bolt a B on to the same set up the B will crush the 4 or 9 out of the hole. Even if its only by 10 feet it is still way better for us.

 

[LegDragger64]

Thats just it . A good tuner will not just bolt it on to the same setup , he will change some parts and settings to make it work. Most guys probably are better off with a B pipe , but good tuners that are able to set it up right will have more power with a dry pipe.

 

[MADMAT]

Bah humbug!

I'm going to kill another tank!

 

[Watty]

Thats just it . A good tuner will not just bolt it on to the same setup , he will change some parts and settings to make it work. Most guys probably are better off with a B pipe , but good tuners that are able to set it up right will have more power with a dry pipe.

Thats the difference right there and I couldn't agree more. If you like to tinker...the dry pipes are awesome, if you just wanrt to bolt on and ride, the B-pipe is for you.

When I swapped from the b-pipe to the type 9, I found that after playing with water, cylinder temps and timing, I had an increase that was far greater than what I thought possible. Had I not have done the testing myself, I would have said the b-pipe's were the be all and end all. Now, I'm happy to let people know that they can work very well if time is taken to make them work the way they should.

 

[egbrig]

The couplers of the 4,9 and B are at different distances from the piston face, so of course the diameters are different.

 

[bad93blaster]

if people are gonna start throwing dry pipes away can i have them instead ill pay shipping

 

[WFO Speedracer]

No don't destroy them thats not good for the environment,send them to me and I will recycle them at no charge to you,you pay shipping of course.

 

[MADMAT]

I think you guys are under estimating my hatred of this pipe. Destroying it will be fun.

Besides I think the pipe in question will be in service for a while longer.

 

[Kennay]

It's not the pipe or the design's fault that you can't get it to work correctly. Mine works fine. I did take the time to make it align correctly.

And your brilliant theory on the coupler size being different is all but complete bs. I'm not attacking you personally, but dude, you are way off. There are many variables in determining how well a pipe works.

 

[Keith]

I'll give another thumbs up for the 4. I have one on my limited. I have also ridden one one a superstocker. The superstocker had plenty of hit down low and reved to the moon. I have also ridded a B on a wamiltons 785. I has plenty of punch down low but lacks top end, which is ok because it is a freestyle/freeride ski. That being said the ski with the B doesnt have the hit down low like the superstocker with the 4 on it.

I run a jet works valve on my set up which helps with the low end power. But I dont have the water injection setup on it tried it but never really noticed any difference. If anybody here is running water injection and got it to work please share your setup.

I go threw about I coupler a year. It used to be more but I took the time to get everything aligned and it is much better now.

 

[MADMAT]

Again....maybe someday I will ride a mildly built 701 with something that hits like a B other than a B but I highly highly doubt it.

If Brian sells this type 4 I promise I will not buy it and destroy it for video.

But the best money I ever spent in any of this so far was for 2 brand new in the box b pipes. I kinda miss my speedwerx (barely) but I have never missed that type 4.

Water injection....strainers.....constantly searching for that elusive mad bottom hit..........missing wave days........


Nevermind I am buying it and running it over...

 

[Watty]

Maybe a few people will change thier minds about dry pipes when the new eme pipe is released. Looks a lot like the type 9 chamber.

 

[MADMAT]

Really? I though it looked like a WDK exhaust.

 

[Watty]

The chamber that wraps around the tank looks pretty similar to the type 9 I think. Even the stinger section leading off the chamber looks the same. Either way, I set most of my friends' b-pipes to run almost the same as a dry pipe. Dry is good!

 

[x2ryder]

What is a eme pipe? Any pics?

 

[bad93blaster]

What is a eme pipe? Any pics?

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/17815

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

Other madMatt,

this is pretty much how I feel about the B pipe.

so guess what?

I just bought a type 4 to test with and see how it ads up.

I might end back up with my coffman sizzler and sell the B pipe for enough money to buy another dayum squarenose.


:spankme:

Because I hate them more than spiders.

They irritate me and require BS strainers and coupler replacements to often. And they DON'T AND WILL NEVER hit on the bottom like a B.

MAYBE...and that is a HUGE MAYBE......with a 170HP motor.

I just don't want to see any newbs make the mistakes I did and lose ride time.

They suck for this forum and it should be plain for the world to see. STAY AWAY 4's and 9's. They are the devil.

:firedevil::sasmokin::saroll::saevilw:

:smileeek::saeek::sgrin::scool::salook::saevil:

 

[MADMAT]

Yea this 8 looks like fun too. Thankfully I will never know if it is a good pipe or not.

I forgot about these. Saw it on Ebay.

 

[MADMAT]

There are many variables in determining how well a pipe works.

Thats right and this is one of them and the most important for initial exhaust removal aka throttle response. Get er out and let the wave and all the rest of do its thing but get er out now on initial brap. Makes total sense IMO.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

according to that, an open and short straight pipe would be the best for throttle response right?

Thats right and this is one of them and the most important for initial exhaust removal aka throttle response. Get er out and let the wave and all the rest of do its thing but get er out now on initial brap. Makes total sense IMO.