Best Li-Fe battery I have seen so far

[D-Roc]

Matt, I am telling you I had hot cables from a bad starter, It also killed my battery fast from a few starts. i don't know all the fancy term but in my mind it was like i put the positive cable and hooked it to a ground and held it. of course it gets hot if there is no fuse to blow, if the starter uses the power and spins freely and easily the battery lasts, but if the starter is crap, it grounds out the power and gets dispansated in the cable by heat. I know you do not have hot cables but, you could have a crusty starter that the jetworks battery may not be affected by as much as this toy battery. the currency increase from a bad old starter. yes? no?

 

[Matt_E]

Edit: I did actually check over the whole starter thing when I first had this issue with the Flame. I would get only a handful of cranks out of even the Jetworks battery. I replaced all cables and it improved, but not that much. Then I got a new OEM starter and things improved a lot. Since putting that starter in, my ride time has stayed the same (at least 10 gallons, I rarely ride more than that between charging the battery). Hence my starter is in like-new condition.

Post #160.

 

[motoman96]

So it's safe to say you have a crusty starter Matt? Lol

 

[Matt_E]

:lmao:

Yah, I don't know what else to say here. Crusty starter it is. :biggrin:

 

[D-Roc]

hahah, the damn edits. i feel new to our discussion, haha. so your starter is in perfect shape, how long could you have cranked the motor out of the water with that battery. regardless of starting, and after the fixed terminal.

 

[Matt_E]

With the Shorai: About a minute. Then wait another minute, repeat. And so on.

With the Jetworks: A lot longer. Enough to unsink a motor and go riding afterwards.

 

[D-Roc]

1 minute of crankin is all your ski will get from the shoria, out of water, regardless of starting the flame. and you don't think your ski has some starter issue? Its just not what i am seeing on scotts ski with the smaller 155cca battery and improper charging of it. maybe that is the secret.

chaulk one more up for the MSD TL.

 

[Matt_E]

Works fine with two different JW batteries, will not work so well with the Shorai.

Yep, must be the starter.

Thanks for figuring this out for me. :bigok:

 

[D-Roc]

well please lay it out for me then. why does your ski kill the 220cca i one minute and scott ski does not kill it after 2 hours of riding and me giving up on killing it with a minute of cranking.

no wiki posts either!

 

[motoman96]

I think the problem lies in your mag pump personally, but I won't go into details in this thread.

 

[D-Roc]

lol, you probably would think its the pump.

 

[XJCrawler]

Just something I noticed on ballistics site is they recommend the 12 cell for all Kawasaki and Yamaha Jetski's. Maybe I'll order the 12 cell instead tomorrow

 

[D-Roc]

do it up, how heavy is that one, or wait until a few more reviews come in from people who have good equipment and are willing to check a few things over before ditching it.

 

[XJCrawler]

Its 2lbs 5oz, it's only a pound heavier than the 8 cell

 

[motoman96]

Why does this seem like dejavu? You had the same outlook in the mag pump thread, even when hard facts were laid out in caveman terms. You realize Matt is working on a degree in electrical engineering? He just might know a thing or two about electricity. Just a hunch...

 

[D-Roc]

please answer the question then motoman, why does his ski kill a bigger cca battery flat in 1 minute? keep the mag discussion outta here bro, there are no hard facts in that thread just simple opinions from people that need to be told what to do by engine builders. Is it so impossible to believe that his 14 month old starter coulld be killing his battery faster than it should.

 

[Waternut]

Holy crap!!! :deadhorse:The last page and a half of posts have just been garbage.

Dude, Matt's starter is not killing his battery right now. Neither his Shorai nor his jetworks. His whole point countless posts ago was that the voltage drop during standard cranking with a good starter with good wires allows the battery voltage to drop temporarily while cranking. This drop causes his ignition to see a temporary low voltage that will not allow it to operate.

As for the 1 minute reference. He was stating the minute of cranking as a reference to the batteries ability. Even cranking for a solid minute is crazy abusive to both battery and starter. Continuing cranking past that is just stupid. So to help illustrate the batteries ability, you crank for a while and then give everything a break. Then continue again. I don't see any reference to his good battery/starter combo only cranking for 1 minute and then the battery is completely dead.

 

[Matt_E]

Yup, pretty much. :bigok:

 

[kraqus]

I wanna see that Video....



Benny

 

[Jr Freestyle]

Who on earth would crank there starter for minute straight, that's just stupidity .