Billet Kawi Porn

[yamahammer]

Thank you.

I am sure we will be doing a stock stroke Kawi PV cyl as part of this run.

Kinda off topic, but your post somewhat reaffirms what I have been saying about the stock stroke-90MM bore cyl's that are out. Sometimes people get all caught up in clever marketing and don't realize what they are buying.

I agree with you on plenty of power with the smaller 7 port "big bore" cyl, even with a stock-stroke-crank. I think the engine needs a longer stroke to take advantage of the 90+MM piston.

WCF does good stuff.

So are ready for a Kawi?

Brian

right on. we would all love a billit bigbore+stroker, but time/budget/availability/reliability makes a bigbore only a reality for more people. well me anyway. plus just the bling factor to dangle over your buddies head because he has a lame stock cylinder is worth the $$$.arty:

 

[Millertime]

Keep us posted on how this is going.
Thanks

 

[wsuwrhr]

Material got pushed back an additional week, our supplier didn't have any in stock. I am still waiting for it to come in. I will shoot a picture of the pallet when it comes in.

It will be huge.

I ordered some other material to keep the machine going in the meantime.

Brian

 

[Liquid Force]

awesome bit of work guys, you are really pushing the bar out there!! would love to see a big 1000cc twin pipe SXR, that woudl really be something else, any plans to make a set of cases to go with this cylinder, seeing as they are bit of a weak link on the Kawasakis.

 

[wsuwrhr]

awesome bit of work guys, you are really pushing the bar out there!! would love to see a big 1000cc twin pipe SXR, that would really be something else, any plans to make a set of cases to go with this cylinder, seeing as they are bit of a weak link on the Kawasakis.

Thank you,

We have been talking about it and yes, I have been thinking about doing some.

I don't know how big the market is for Kawi cases though, if the demand is really there. It is a bummer that the Kawi is more or less unstrokable more than 4MM or so.

I don't know if I would be able to invest the time in the Kawi unless I had firm-commited orders for them.

Brian

 

[sflsurfrider]

id love to have a stock stroke, big bore non-PV dasa.

why? stroker cranks are difficult-to-get, expensive and pains in the azz.

sure, you have to epoxy and machine the cases for the extra ports, but its still less machining than with a stroker.

...not to mention, everyone has a stock crank they can use. thats half the engine right there.

btw, i just saw this thread for the first time and i think i just jizzed in my pants after seeing the new kawi cylinder.

thatd go great in my jet mate!

 

[sflsurfrider]

You are describing a stock cylinder and a spacer plate to me.

I'm curious why you would even want an aftermarket cylinder if you don't want powervalves.

Brian

brian, with all due respect... have you ever ridden a ski with one of your non-pv engines and compared it to a stock cylindered machine?

theres really no comparison.

 

[djkorn1]

all very interesting...This may be my next motor in two years.

 

[wsuwrhr]

brian, with all due respect... have you ever ridden a ski with one of your non-pv engines and compared it to a stock cylindered machine?

theres really no comparison.

Of course there is no comparision to a stock cylinder, otherwise Lamey's wouldn't be so popular.

But the context you are quoting I am talking about PV Lamey to non PV Lamey engines and that is another step.

To each their own bud, that is why the cylinder can be had in many configurations.

 

[wsuwrhr]

I disagree.

Many people see the benefits in a longer stroke.

why? stroker cranks are difficult-to-get, expensive and pains in the azz.

sure, you have to epoxy and machine the cases for the extra ports, but its still less machining than with a stroker.

...not to mention, everyone has a stock crank they can use. thats half the engine right there.

 

[sflsurfrider]

I disagree.

Many people see the benefits in a longer stroke.

i am one of them.

i was just pointing out the negatives. we all know the positives.

 

[wsuwrhr]

i am one of them.

i was just pointing out the negatives. we all know the positives.

???

Alright, so

Okthen

 

[sflsurfrider]

???

Alright, so

Okthen

you seem a little unsure with my response.

you asked:

Why go through the expense of a big bore cylinder and not use a stroker crank?

i responded w/ :

stroker cranks are difficult-to-get, expensive and pains in the azz.

and

less machining

and

everyone has a stock crank they can use

made sense to me. :dunno:

 

[wsuwrhr]

i am one of them.

i was just pointing out the negatives. we all know the positives.

So you do see the benefits of a stroker crank, but yet you want to point out the "negatives"? So basically you felt the need to sh-it on my thread? For what purpose? I don't get it.

I disagree with everything you said. Is that a direct-sure enough response for you?

Earlier, by an indirect response, I was trying to be nice. You must have misunderstood my intentions.

Brian

you seem a little unsure with my response.

you asked:

i responded w/ :

and

and

made sense to me. :dunno:

 

[waterfreak]

So you do see the benefits of a stroker crank, but yet you want to point out the "negatives"? So basically you felt the need to sh-it on my thread? For what purpose? I don't get it.

I disagree with everything you said. Is that a direct-sure enough response for you?

Earlier, by an indirect response, I was trying to be nice. You must have misunderstood my intentions.

Brian

don't sweat charlie, Brian!... he's just full of bananas:Banane37::Banane37:

 

[TaterStick]

I will.

Would you like crank cost for a 4MM stroker?

Yes! Me too!

 

[sflsurfrider]

So you do see the benefits of a stroker crank, but yet you want to point out the "negatives"? So basically you felt the need to sh-it on my thread? For what purpose? I don't get it.

I disagree with everything you said. Is that a direct-sure enough response for you?

Earlier, by an indirect response, I was trying to be nice. You must have misunderstood my intentions.

Brian

whoa! ease up, bud!

if you cant take some loose conversation that doesnt go exactly the way you wanted, ill let it go.

nothing, at all, was meant by it.

crap an apple, why dontcha!

maybe you shouldnt ask questions that you dont want answered.

Why go through the expense of a big bore cylinder and not use a stroker crank?

in all seriousness, id be more inclined to put a stock stroke big bore DASA cylinder together before wanting the hassle of a stroker. why not offer both? x-scream offers both. :wavey:

 

[wsuwrhr]

Yes! Me too!

Crap I forgot all about that.

I'll geturdun.

 

[wsuwrhr]

whoa! ease up, bud!

if you cant take some loose conversation that doesnt go exactly the way you wanted, ill let it go.

nothing, at all, was meant by it.

crap an apple, why dontcha!

maybe you shouldnt ask questions that you dont want answered.


in all seriousness, id be more inclined to put a stock stroke big bore DASA cylinder together before wanting the hassle of a stroker. why not offer both? x-scream offers both. :wavey:

No problem bud.

I didn't take it as loose conversation sir. Sorry.

I didn't take offense, I just didn't think you were being cool about it and I said something to you about it.

The question I asked was because I didn't understand what he was asking me for.


We do a big bore stock stroke cylinder, just not with a 90MM piston.

I have posted about this subject before, DASA just doesn't feel the 7 port cylinder has enough transfer area for a 90MM piston. We just don't.

Brian

 

[sflsurfrider]

not sure how i was being "uncool" about it. perhaps i need sensitivity training to deal with the delicate flowers on this site.

i guess if i explained my post to you as, "the positives of a stocker", instead of, "the negatives of a stroker", it wouldnt have set you off so much.

sorry, man.. i didnt know you were like that.