BOB Review
- Thread starter Ross_C
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- Location
- Del Mar, CA
I like the intake idea...might be worth trying it without the grate on there and see how it goes. Right now we have a lengthened WR205 on it. Fuzzy gave me some good ideas as well. First step will be to move the motor and see what happens.
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- Del Mar, CA
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WFO Speedracer
A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
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- Alabama
Glad to see an honest review, honestly when I saw that big bulge hanging from the bottom of the ski I had some concerns . I also had concerns as far as the weight placement being so far forward, my ski is setup pretty much as far forward as the engine will go also.I have quite a bit of ride time on a stock bottomed 300SX hull, I was assured by DK that the stock hull handled like crap, several people have now ridden the ski, no one thought it handled funny .One funny thing about it is my ski will go across the water flat out, it doesn't try to death wobble, lean to one side or anything else crazy , it just goes, all one really needs to do is hang on !
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l'm running a stock pump.Love to have a mag pump,but l'll have to get a second job!
- Location
- South Florida
I have a mag pump so I don't think it makes a difference. I want everyone to know that it's not impossible to ride fast, just unpredictable to the point that you have to squat down and hang off the back as far as possible which isn't very comfortable for long runs. I have noticed that I can go much faster if I'm kneeling in the tray for what that is worth.
Jetmaniac makes a good point too. Maybe any hull that weighs less than 80 pounds will be "twitchy" at speed.
It's a freestyle hull made for flatwater backflips on a budget, not a race hull nor purpose built for surf. Ross was a pioneer and gave it a try for surf and it has some issues. I'm sure the design could be tweaked some for a surf version and Ross is leading the way right now. This is the first of the R&D as far as that goes. The hull is new and was made for flatwater backflips with probably no thought for surf riding. No hull is the best at everything. It is perfect for what it was made for, but not the best for what it wasn't. Big surprise.
I've seen a lot of people asking if it is a good rec boat. The answer is yes if you want to do backflips and play around with a super light ski. The answer is no if you want to cruise a big lake at speed. A stock superjet hull is what you want for that, but you can forget the backflips without a monster motor. Decide what you want to do and then decide what to buy.
Jetmaniac makes a good point too. Maybe any hull that weighs less than 80 pounds will be "twitchy" at speed.
It's a freestyle hull made for flatwater backflips on a budget, not a race hull nor purpose built for surf. Ross was a pioneer and gave it a try for surf and it has some issues. I'm sure the design could be tweaked some for a surf version and Ross is leading the way right now. This is the first of the R&D as far as that goes. The hull is new and was made for flatwater backflips with probably no thought for surf riding. No hull is the best at everything. It is perfect for what it was made for, but not the best for what it wasn't. Big surprise.
I've seen a lot of people asking if it is a good rec boat. The answer is yes if you want to do backflips and play around with a super light ski. The answer is no if you want to cruise a big lake at speed. A stock superjet hull is what you want for that, but you can forget the backflips without a monster motor. Decide what you want to do and then decide what to buy.
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DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
- Location
- Oakley, CA
I agree with you 100% on everything you just said. It's a purpose built hull, that does what it's suppose to, and more.
I went riding last night, and with my 800-flat top, I tried holding the throttle open a bit, just because I've never held the throttle open on a BOB. It was definietly a lot more stable than my rev hull. At Nationals last year, Pat Bogart of X-Metal wanted to hear what my 701 sounded like, so when I opened the throttle for a second, I began to roll around and the ski shot out. When I pinned the throttle on my BOB last night, the ski was stable, it jumped up a little, but I didn't feel a wobble, and the ski didn't try to push me off or roll over. Maybe the wobbling at high speeds could be a difference in riding styles. I'm a lot smaller and lighter then Ross, so that might be helping me from wobbling around at WOT.
Just a thought.
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- Del Mar, CA
I never said anything about rolling around at WOT. I don't really appreciate your insinuating that I might be lying in the review. Read what I wrote.
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DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
- Location
- Oakley, CA
Sorry if it looked that way Ross, I didn't mean it to look like I was insinuating you of lying. And I didn't mean rolling at WOT, I meant wobbling. I guess I need to edit a post.
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Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
DK What is the bulb on the bottom for?
DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
- Location
- Oakley, CA
It helps to give the ski the extra pop for doing flips. If you cut it off, and made that section flat, or even reduced the curve, it wouldn't be able to flip as easy. We tried all sorts of stuff during the R&Ding of the hull, so we tried all sorts of stuff with the bottom deck, and the bulge on the bottom makes it handle and pop a lot better then anything else we did.
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- Corsica FRANCE
Great review.
For the problem of the off-throttle jump (i maybe wrong) but i think it comes from overpressure in the intake tract on the front of the prop.
A lots of things can be involved ,
the shape of the intake
the scoop grate
the pump itself
A bigger pump that can better handle the water flow may be a solution
There is a solution involving holes drilled on the pump (to releave pressure )
my 0.2 cents i hope this helps
For the problem of the off-throttle jump (i maybe wrong) but i think it comes from overpressure in the intake tract on the front of the prop.
A lots of things can be involved ,
the shape of the intake
the scoop grate
the pump itself
A bigger pump that can better handle the water flow may be a solution
There is a solution involving holes drilled on the pump (to releave pressure )
my 0.2 cents i hope this helps
yamaslut
kill it
- Location
- Daytona Beach, Florida
Ross, after reading your review, I think you need to ride Tems' (superfreaks') newer rocker hull. I think he is really on the right track w/ that thing. The hull he is running is too light for the surf (50lbs) IMO but w/ about 30lbs I think it has the ability to be a really good option for the surf.
great review!!!
great review!!!
WFO Speedracer
A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
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- Alabama
You ever considered a career in politics, I am just saying it could be an option.
DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
- Location
- Oakley, CA
Keep it on topic, Terry.
Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
There are better odds of they sky falling that what you are asking Terry to do!
- Location
- California
This topic is very touchy. I comend Ross for the great review. It was well thought out and put together very professionally. I think Derrick and his boys have constructed a great hull for a purpose. My thoughts are that Ross took a hull put it through the ringer and found out that it wasn't the best hull for his purpose. Not a big deal! Ross and the ski clinic are great people and both are trying very hard to make a difference in the sport. Thanks for everything you guys do.
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DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
- Location
- Oakley, CA
You may be right, unfortunately.
Thanks, Dustin. By the way, your hull's almost done, and it's looking good!
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
Thanks for the unbiased opinions. It's so hard to get good reviews because nobody wants to bash something they just spent lots of time and hard earned money building. You typically only hear the good things, but reality is that there are usually bad things too.
keegan
TRLFTMFW
- Location
- Kansas City, MO
this is honestly a very informative thread. I am glad someone spoke up because this is what I have been waiting to hear ever since these hulls came out. thanks ross for the info. And ski clinic, keep continuing to build your purpose built skis at an awesome price.