Calling out LPW (aka Pete's Rant)

[njfl]

Seeing all of these people finally come out and tell the truth, I feel OK pointing out one thing that I have experienced with Paul.

I’m not sure if this fits into the category of integrity or ethics, but two years ago, I was at his shop in NJ and he showed me the carbon B chamber. He told me that the price was $2000.00. He told me that “people like me” needed one of these since I seemed to like to have the best parts on my ski.

Later on I became friends with crammit442 (Charles), the maker of the pipe. From talking with both Charles and Pete I learned that Paul knew that these did not function well (supposedly he ran them on his dyno as well as on a few skis). He was trying to sell me the prototype that he knew did not perform, for $2000.00.

Additionally, I see all of these young kids on the board saving every penny to send Paul their motors and I really want to say something, but have held back. All that I can say is, beware, shop around, and ride some of each builders’ motors before sending your hard-earned cash (and that goes for any builder, not just LPW). Also, if the builders do not take a credit card, keep in mind that you have minimal recourse when problems occur.

 

[PancakePete]

Seeing all of these people finally come out and tell the truth, I feel OK pointing out one thing that I have experienced with Paul.

I’m not sure if this fits into the category of integrity or ethics, but two years ago, I was at his shop in NJ and he showed me the carbon B chamber. He told me that the price was $2000.00. He told me that “people like me” needed one of these since I seemed to like to have the best parts on my ski.

Later on I became friends with crammit442 (Charles), the maker of the pipe. From talking with both Charles and Pete I learned that Paul knew that these did not function well (supposedly he ran them on his dyno as well as on a few skis). He was trying to sell me the prototype that he knew did not perform, for $2000.00.

Additionally, I see all of these young kids on the board saving every penny to send Paul their motors and I really want to say something, but have held back. All that I can say is, beware, shop around, and ride some of each builders’ motors before sending your hard-earned cash (and that goes for any builder, not just LPW). Also, if the builders do not take a credit card, keep in mind that you have minimal recourse when problems occur.

I was the Human Dyno on that... and Logged my hours with the pipe so Paul could do a Test report for the pipe... I felt that there was not a motor gain nor a substantial loss... I pancaked some serious stuff, and that pipe did not chip crack or dent.. Nice work.....

 

[morty gunty]

:nono: Paul was not there when I started the #2 Fan account. He was present when the photos were taken.

....but he was happily aware of your intentions..... not that i wouldnt be...

.... but then, i dont claim to always conduct myself with "utmost integrity"..... in case you didnt notice.

:haha:

 

[PancakePete]

I have been getting Pms out the waazzu !
Bunch more great dealings will be posted by this evening.

 

[SXIPro]

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

 

[D Slicker]

I am sad at this thread, I wanted to stay out of this but here it goes. I had a 61x cylinder ported by Paul and it rocks. I sent a set of cylinders and cases down to Paul to have a big bore done earlier this year. They were about to go out to me when a good friend of mine (Alex) had three sets of cylinders drop out on his (he has a real gripe and is aloud too). After it happened Paul told me he holding all big bores till he straightens out the issues he is having with his equipment. I would rather have him hold them then him send it to me and fail. I will admit that I am a little concerned at this point and have said some things about it to my friends but am glad that he wants to send me a quality product and will give him an opportunity to do so with a deadline of October 1-8 since I will need another motor for my conversion for daytona. I am not going to jump on the bashing band wagon because there are other companies on here that I have had issues with and have worked to rectify the situation just like he is with me. Please don’t bash me for this post I will take it personally and am just stating my experience. That said I feel bad that people have had a bad experience with him or any company for that matter.

 

[Waste Land]

On Paul's behalf,

I can say this this or that about big motors or anything as I dont own one. I do own a cylinder ported by Paul. I also added NIB dual 44's at the same time. I had tons of problems......I just couldnt get the proper carb tuning going on.

National came around. I picked Paul up at 7am........He pulled my carbs on and off 3 times and got my ski dialed in......then once again when I got water in my gas tank:banghead:

Paul has been around since the day I got my SJ and has always hung in there to help me along.

On my end...Nothing but a great guy that has done way too much for me already

 

[Tuttle]

I am sad at this thread, I wanted to stay out of this but here it goes. I had a 61x cylinder ported by Paul and it rocks. I sent a set of cylinders and cases down to Paul to have a big bore done earlier this year. They were about to go out to me when a good friend of mine (Alex) had three sets of cylinders drop out on his (he has a real gripe and is aloud too). After it happened Paul told me he holding all big bores till he straightens out the issues he is having with his equipment. I would rather have him hold them then him send it to me and fail. I will admit that I am a little concerned at this point and have said some things about it to my friends but am glad that he wants to send me a quality product and will give him an opportunity to do so with a deadline of October 1-8 since I will need another motor for my conversion for daytona. I am not going to jump on the bashing band wagon because there are other companies on here that I have had issues with and have worked to rectify the situation just like he is with me. Please don’t bash me for this post I will take it personally and am just stating my experience. That said I feel bad that people have had a bad experience with him or any company for that matter.

There should be no reason for anyone to bash you. It is your experience.

 

[D Slicker]

There should be no reason for anyone to bash you. It is your experience.

Thanks but you never know with this crowd.

 

[onesojourner]

Loud Noises!

 

[Mark44]

Wow this could be larger than the waterdog thread?


opcorn:

Mark44

 

[Tuttle]

At least with the waterdawg thread he came on here and awnsered the questions and didn't play the "I don't get invovled in this"

opworm: Not good!!! Where's the :heart:

 

[Superjet 9195]

How about we all just unplug our computers for like a week and go try to get back to what this site was started for. Riding.
Peace.

Oh and Pete, dont sell your ski, Golf is sooooooooooooooo boring.

 

[CarFanatic]

:bigeyes: Man.. I Was looking to by a BB setup from paul this winter... now I dunno what to do :crying:

 

[RonnyMac]

hmmm, thats sounds a little like what your friend, jason, did to his friend steve.
doesnt it? no, wait... it sounds A LOT LIKE IT!

Stoyer made a thread stating his his reason for leaving WCF, with his own experience's, and 2 replies defending his own post.
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=58923&highlight=stoyer

Pete is obviously on a mission to try and ruin Pauls way of life and reputation. The difference in clear. We are supposed to believe that Pete is doing this for the common good of everyone. I'm I the only one who can see thats BS?
There is something else here. A disgruntled rider with a personal vendetta maybe? My prediction... Look for full throttle on Petes next boat.
Paul will be fine. Most people will see this as nothing more than "a woman scorned" syndrome.

 

[crammit442]

I have always had my suspicions about the whole dyno issue as have a lot of other people. There was a certain new LPW 6mm stroker at Alatoona that had some very large claimed dyno numbers. Talking with this person after he received his motor, he said he was positive that no fuel had ever been run through his motor. Also, anyone ever wonder about the break in time on all these NEW customer motors? Are they simply assembled and run hard on the dyno the first time ever cranked? I also always kind of thought there was something a little slimy. I could never quite put my finger on anything concrete until last year. I became party to a VERY malicious, slanderous email Paul sent about another business that regularly frequents X-H2O. I have the emails and can produce them if needed. The things said were untrue. What's worse was that at the same time Paul was privately expressing interest in doing business with the very company he was slandering. That and the attempt Paul made to associate the Joe Kenney name with the motor he built for Taylor last year. Paul would have happily continued to allow people to think that Joe said it was the best motor he had ever ridden. Only after Joe told Paul to remove the comment about him did he edit the post.:23:

 

[PancakePete]

Stoyer made a thread stating his his reason for leaving WCF, with his own experience's, and 2 replies defending his own post.
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=58923&highlight=stoyer

Pete is obviously on a mission to try and ruin Pauls way of life and reputation. The difference in clear. We are supposed to believe that Pete is doing this for the common good of everyone. I'm I the only one who can see thats BS?
There is something else here. A disgruntled rider with a personal vendetta maybe? My prediction... Look for full throttle on Petes next boat.
Paul will be fine. Most people will see this as nothing more than "a woman scorned" syndrome.

Paul robs people... and that is ok with you.. that is fine. I dont want to be associated with that... I can go to whoever I want.. and one reason I am selling ******** and done with the sport.. IS YOUR DAMN POST ABOUT ME going to somewhere else.. you have no idea of whats happening...
whats in your ski..... I am doing this because Paul has lied and gone to far with his thievery.... :nutkick:

 

[PancakePete]

I have always had my suspicions about the whole dyno issue as have a lot of other people. There was a certain new LPW 6mm stroker at Alatoona that had some very large claimed dyno numbers. Talking with this person after he received his motor, he said he was positive that no fuel had ever been run through his motor. Also, anyone ever wonder about the break in time on all these NEW customer motors? Are they simply assembled and run hard on the dyno the first time ever cranked? I also always kind of thought there was something a little slimy. I could never quite put my finger on anything concrete until last year. I became party to a VERY malicious, slanderous email Paul sent about another business that regularly frequents X-H2O. I have the emails and can produce them if needed. The things said were untrue. What's worse was that at the same time Paul was privately expressing interest in doing business with the very company he was slandering. That and the attempt Paul made to associate the Joe Kenney name with the motor he built for Taylor last year. Paul would have happily continued to allow people to think that Joe said it was the best motor he had ever ridden. Only after Joe told Paul to remove the comment about him did he edit the post.:23:

Ronny got some comments for that... :Banane26:

 

[njfl]

We are supposed to believe that Pete is doing this for the common good of everyone. I'm I the only one who can see thats BS?

You have to admit, from Pete's catalyst, quite a few experiences from customers around the world are coming to the surface.

 

[Superjet3]

Well, I guess I will chime in too. My experience with purchasing a Lamey cyl from Paul was also undesirable. I gave him a 2K deposit for the cyl. It took approx 9 months for him to supposedly get my cyl from Dan. I heard many excuses from he is out of them and is making more to he shipped the wrong one. Needless to say I heard from several other sources that the cyl was readily available from Dan. This upset me very much considering that Paul and I had known each other for approx 10 years. I do not run a LPW motor so I cannot comment on them other than what I have seen happening to his motors recently with the sleeves dropping. I too would advise others to just ride many boats with motors from many builders to find one that suit there riding style. Mine happened to be Team Scream.