- Location
- Cheney lake Kansas
Very nice. congrats , cant wait to hear what you think of it ater a few runs.
EME SJ Dry Pipe Pics
- Thread starter RiverRat
- Start date
- Location
- Lake Orion, Michigan
Damn, I'm bummin' right now.
I paid $1400. Sure hope I am getting the better of the two chambers!
RiverRat
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- Location
- Louisville, Ky
I would like to compare this pipe to a type 9. It looks dead up like a 9 on its side IMO. I think most the power comes from the fact that it is a dry pipe b/c the type 9 makes more power than the b-pipe anyway. Perhaps the length is varied to get the powerband down a bit.
So far I am not digging the lack of a mounting set up on the chamber. Kind of ghetto fabulous. I think I need to lay the thing on a foam pillow or something then strap it down. Just having it lay on the bottom of the hull boggles me. I know the WDK exhaust has nice rubber mounts that elevates the exhaust so it can mount into position.
So far I am not digging the lack of a mounting set up on the chamber. Kind of ghetto fabulous. I think I need to lay the thing on a foam pillow or something then strap it down. Just having it lay on the bottom of the hull boggles me. I know the WDK exhaust has nice rubber mounts that elevates the exhaust so it can mount into position.
I have measured the type 9/octane pipe, both of which I have owned and the major difference between the new pipe and the previous is in the header length. The type 9 and the octane have the same specs just different bends and fit. The octane pipe on a 62t flattop engine needs water injection but on a lamey it has tons of bottom end without water injection. I personaly like the look of the welded preproduction pipes. If Mark Baxster says its 20 % above the b-pipe then I'll take him at his word. I met Mart when he worked a FP and he gave me a couple hour tour as well as answered every question I asked.
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i don't want to upset anyone nor be a naysayer but it seems to me that a 20hp bump over a b-pipe might be a bit optimistic no?
it 's just that it's so hard to squeze a few more beans out of a motor and this pipe claims 20!or the b-pipe for all these years has been grossly undersized or wrong design for the motors.i can understand some more but 20?
i sincerely hope it's true as i 'll be the first one to buy it.
are there any dyno pulls to back these #s?
i don't want to piss anyone off,just an honest question!:kiss:
it 's just that it's so hard to squeze a few more beans out of a motor and this pipe claims 20!or the b-pipe for all these years has been grossly undersized or wrong design for the motors.i can understand some more but 20?
i sincerely hope it's true as i 'll be the first one to buy it.
are there any dyno pulls to back these #s?
i don't want to piss anyone off,just an honest question!:kiss:
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
I agree with you
I haven't heard an official word from Mark but since hp is a measure of work done in a time period then if the dry pipe allows higher rpm and is more efficiant (don't forget that this is highest developed single pipe for a watercraft two stroke) then it may be close to 20 % higher. It was probly lower and got rounded up. Not too many guys out there with a dyno in the back yard let alone a good one.
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THRUST
ThrustInnovations.com
- Location
- royal palm beach florida
i had said when we first tested it was an increase of approximatley 20% in power with that set up over a b pipe . all setups will vary but also this was feel not by a dyno . Which in the end means more for freestyle then numbers doo anyhow . this pipe will spread like wild fire once everyone starts to buy them slowly and here the feedback . people willl build smaller engines and get the power they wanted and get more power just buy buying the pipe instead of shelling another 6k into a engine.
OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
I'm in the market for a new pipe, but I just don't want to relocate my tank. any way around that? What's the cost of a tank setup that works.
So this pipe sounds like a type 9 layed on it's side for better weight distribution with a $500 dollar price increase.hone:
Dry pipes make more power than wet pipes but most racers know that:smokin:
I got to see/hold it this afternoon, it's not a Type 9, there is a lot more to it especially in the resonator.
Glad to hear there's more to it. Looks like a great idea.:Banane35:
Anyone know how many rpms it adds compared to same B pipe set up?
- Location
- Sweet Valley, pa
Mike W
Infidel
- Location
- North Florida
Nice setup. Glad to see your putting those VF3's to good use.
i can undestand that but if it's 20% more at the high end of the power band were the b-pipe signs off then it won't really do a freestyler any good i would think.
might be nice for a racer but i thought this was more of a freestyle pipe.
assuming it can gain 20% that would translate into way more than 20 hp.
these are all assumptions on my part hence the inquiry into any dyno runs that would tell us broadly how the powerband looks.
realizing fully that it will be dependent on the complete configuration but at least it would indicate a trend.
power under the curve and bfsc are much more interesting than max imo.
once again,not a doubter but concerned builder.i really hope it's all that and more
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I think that's what he's getting at, you can't 'feel' 20% on top end, but you can feel it in the bottom/midrange.
I'd be interested to see a dyno chart with torque numbers for sure, on any engine with this pipe.
RiverRat
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- Location
- Louisville, Ky
So this pipe sounds like a type 9 layed on it's side for better weight distribution with a $500 dollar price increase.
Dry pipes make more power than wet pipes but most racers know that:smokin:
Also with this set up you dont have to worry about busted lord mounts or the pipe shaking itself apart. Pipes mounted to the motor tend to bust bracket welds and or mounts over time.