"Foam" is a 4 letter word.... :(

Marshj

DarkHorse
Location
Ann Arbor
yes. ^ . Air is my buddy. Here's my newest thoughts. Why do we need ping pong balls in their anyways? If the compartment is airtight (or close enough) it will still be very bouyant. Much like trying to push a closed pop bottle under water.

The only issue i see with that is if you have a failure, and your hull cracks, or gets damaged. Water is coming in and your air is going out! Ok. Balls are good.

Second note- I just got done with the ole calculator figuring out the Volume of the cavity. It is approx. =

4387.5 inches cubed.

or

2.54 ft^3 of foam in the rear (excluding exhaust and scupper tubes). So for 4 lb foam thats 10 lbs of foam, and two pound foam thats 5 lbs...dry weight
worth the work?
:biggrin:
 

DaUpJetSkier

I like square
Location
Marquette, MI
Just try some shiot and see if it works, it aint like these are airplanes and ya have to worry about dropping 10,000 ft from the sky and dieing. Someones gotta be the guiny pig. Id just get high and go to town.




If it were me.
 

D-Roc

I forgot!
whats next go-cart tanks inside surf skis??? just gotta bust some balls for thinking outside the box, it happens to flatwater guys with new ideas all the time. you would think a surf ski would want all the strength one could get out of it and have enough foam in it to keep it afloat if a big crack were to happen. oh well, it ain't my ski.....go for it.
 
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yamaslut

Guest
latest idea:


how about packing the voids w/ polystyrene foam (the stuff that doesn't absorb water) like out of a cooler or the bean bag. if it's an old cooler, just shread it down to small individual cells then pour foam over that.... It seems to me you still have the rigidity, but the bulk of the material would be unable to retain water.

Or maybe mix it into the foam before you pour it... not sure which would work better????
 

meatball

User Title Unavailable
Location
Maryland
That sounds like that would work a lot better then ping pong balls, crushes still easier then regular foam, but is a LOT lighter per the same given area. I have a couple sheets in the basement, I may even try that myself.

Why not just put the sheets in? Probably would compress a lot better that way. Individual cells sounds like it would be hard to get an even mix while the foam is expanding.
 
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yamaslut

Guest
That sounds like that would work a lot better then ping pong balls, crushes still easier then regular foam, but is a LOT lighter per the same given area. I have a couple sheets in the basement, I may even try that myself.

Why not just put the sheets in? Probably would compress a lot better that way. Individual cells sounds like it would be hard to get an even mix while the foam is expanding.

I'm open for disscussion bro... lets work it out

larger pieces are good for the gunwhale area... I was just thinking smalller chunks = more polystyrene per cubic inch of foam...
 

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
hey Nick, I would stand the ski up on the nose, put your ping pong balls or crushed up foam in about 6", then pour foam so it runs into the voids, the pack and pour.... repeat until full....... instead of trying one big pour.
 
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yamaslut

Guest
hey Nick, I would stand the ski up on the nose, put your ping pong balls or crushed up foam in about 6", then pour foam so it runs into the voids, the pack and pour.... repeat until full....... instead of trying one big pour.

oh yeah... good idea
 
I'm open for disscussion bro... lets work it out

larger pieces are good for the gunwhale area... I was just thinking smalller chunks = more polystyrene per cubic inch of foam...



well if you want to use polystyl, then why even use expanding foam?



what if you just cut the tray wide open, and layed big sheets of PS in there...then just shaped them to fit around the waterlines and such...
 
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