D Slicker
Durham, dont forget it
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- Pottstown, PA
I thought about getting a SJ but I like to be differant, Im staying green.
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Freestyle hull w/Kawi powerplant/pump???
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Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
Highroller said:
HMMMMMMMm, the 800 Kawi motor has some really good potential for a awsome freestyle motor..........
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
I knew the debate would start sooner or later-I still appreciate ALL the great input-I am goin by the opinion Harrison just posted-since I put the super stock water box in my ski and tuned on it some more, the engine has mind- bending bottom end hit compared to everything else I have ridden other than Trickys sick azz ski's. I really think the SXR engine set up I have has alot to offer as far as flat water freestyle goes. As far as hulls go-I have never understood all u guys goin to shorter h/poles. I'm thinkin to myself-my back is arched over way too much as it is due to where my f/holds r-a shorter pole would only make matters worse. 3 weeks ago I put a set of mashers in another SXR for a short female and moved them up 3" further forward than mine are-therefore moving my big azz closer to the dash w/I ride her SXR. Amazing discovery-nose stabs are easier on her ski than mine cuz I am further 4ward on hers!!!!!!!!!!! Now I get the whole short h/pole thing. Keep in mind-I'm learnin everytime I mess w/all this. And thats what got me to wantin a lightweight hull set up w/a short h/pole and real footholds further
4ward.
4ward.
- Location
- Cleveland Ohio
Shorter handlepole means shorter rotation... less circumference that you will have to travel...
So for example, if your pole is 40 inches and you get a 38 inch pole taking away two inches. A stock poled ski would travel 40 X 2 X 3.1415926. Then by using the 38 inch pole it would be 38 X 2 X 3.1415926 meaning your circumference that your hull travels in a perfectly flat roll would go from 251.327 inches to 238.761 inches saving you the effort of having to roll your SXR an extra 12.566 inches.
:Banane01: Too many beers tonight :1244:
So for example, if your pole is 40 inches and you get a 38 inch pole taking away two inches. A stock poled ski would travel 40 X 2 X 3.1415926. Then by using the 38 inch pole it would be 38 X 2 X 3.1415926 meaning your circumference that your hull travels in a perfectly flat roll would go from 251.327 inches to 238.761 inches saving you the effort of having to roll your SXR an extra 12.566 inches.
:Banane01: Too many beers tonight :1244:
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Freestyleriverrat
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WOW Dj........busting out the mathmatics late in the day :haha:
Moondance
Just plain me....
- Location
- Ridin' the Crazy Train
Sounds like he's getting ready to start the school year:biggthumpup:Freestyleriverrat said:
I'd suggest "rolling" the stock hull first, then see where you are at. It is possible. But then again I don't no poop, so take it for what it is worth. My avatar is stock motor, just footholds, bilge and grips.
For ME, SJ gives up too much for a more tossable ski
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For ME, SJ gives up too much for a more tossable ski
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i had the green blood for yrs and refused the switch. for 2 summers now i have had a superjet that honestly has run for absolute crap, but still at times the way the motor hits is much more to my liking than my old kawi motor. i have learned to like the way the hull handles to boot.
just my 2 cents
not to discount your idea. i just really don;t think the work involved would be a worth while cause. unless of course you have the time, resources, and really wanted to do it as a project on the side or something
just my 2 cents
not to discount your idea. i just really don;t think the work involved would be a worth while cause. unless of course you have the time, resources, and really wanted to do it as a project on the side or something
Waste Land
Non Multa Sed Multum
- Location
- Florence, AL
Scorn800 said:
Not riled up. I just think its stupid when people get this "Brand fetish" and wont leave something for a much better option. The motor in a SXR I agree could do what needed to be done for Fx, but the hull is made for racing. Theres a reason pros use SJs/Octanes....
He wants to go hull now...so whats the point in even staying SXR? A leight SXR might weigh what? 5lbs less then a stock SJ? or some crap like that.
Why not just get a superjet and learn to ride it and quit trying to collect all the parts like they were pokemon
djkorn1 said:
Great math SJ...only prob is the pole isnt at full extend at rotation. The whole purpose of the pole is to get you closer to the front end; weight wise not save rotation distance. When rolling....the closer your handle pole stays to your hood the better.
STEELDOGG
Hi Ho Silver!
- Location
- Birmingham, AL
:banghead: :banghead: The Gillinator is just being hard headed.
For the time and money you would spend D!cking around trying to do a motor transplant, you could build yourself a nice freestyle SUPERJET:biggrin: I can appreciate your tenacity, but dammitman.
For the time and money you would spend D!cking around trying to do a motor transplant, you could build yourself a nice freestyle SUPERJET:biggrin: I can appreciate your tenacity, but dammitman.
IceRocket1286
Site Supporter
- Location
- Metro Detroit
Waste Land said:
do it to it like me and have BOTH! :Banane01: if you can that is, cuz its worth it.
Waste Land said:
What's wrong with brand loyality?
If that's what you have spare parts for and know how to wrench on. Why switch?
and for Pro's... watch what Malone will be on at the WF.
There's no right boat for anything. It all comes down to what the person riding it thinks.
You make no sense Wasteland... keep thinking your SJ is the best.
Maybe it is for hoodtricks...... but hood tricks are lame
ANT
Just ride
- Location
- Sea Isle City, NJ
Enough BS....If you have enough sack and technique you can roll and freestyle on anything.
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
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- Grand Rapids, MI
Scorn800 said:
He won't be on an SX-R! Lol, well it might use a few of the same bolts :haha:
Waste Land
Non Multa Sed Multum
- Location
- Florence, AL
Scorn800 said:
Theres nothing wrong with brand loyalty....I'm a yamaha person but would I spend the time and money trying to make mine do whata SXR does on the race course? No why bother
and I'll agree there is no right boat...its pretty much liek you said but in this case. Where Gil is ready for another boat and about to drop 3k ona hull that just looks like an SXr....when he can get a round nose and be more then happy....why
how you think i make no sense I'm not sure. I dont think my SJ is best; but in this situation I think it would be his best choice.
Say what you want about flat water......I got into stand ups for variety....not doing the same 3 surf tricks over and over
Malones SXR is about as much KAwi as Rick Roy's SJ was Sea Doo.
Waste Land
Non Multa Sed Multum
- Location
- Florence, AL
butti said:
No offense....just not into seeing nost stab, BR, BF, and every now and again a reentry over and over. I'm into aerial, technical, and fun.
- Location
- Melbourne, FL
Waste Land said:
You're forgetting lawndarts, the "hook up a tow rope before it sinks", and the "my ski stopped a lot faster than I thought it would while beaching front flip"
FL-cracker
X-H2O
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- old exit 72 Melbourne
Malones SXR is proably 75-100lbs lighter then stock, and alot shorter then stock, you can not go by a 40k boat unless you have 40k to blow.
Waste Land
Non Multa Sed Multum
- Location
- Florence, AL
GDFL said:
I owned everyone witht hat trick at Daytona....multi times