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Big Kahuna

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the WaTeRhAwK said:
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secondly, this venturi crap that has been brought up by none other than sfl, is a totally different argument as opposed to what the original one was based on. being that I have initially stated years ago that the reason the thing is referred to as an extractor is because the majority of the water to the pipe is diverted away from the expansion chamber and routed to the stinger and pissers, allowing the temperature of the pipe to be hot enough, and keep the return wave at a nominal speed. the negative pressure created from the sound wave is what pulls the fresh A/f mixture into the engine, that is why the pipe is called an "extractor". it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the venturi action of the stinger fitting with exhaust flowing by it.
as I said, the confusion created here is a classic example of people running two or three arguments together, asking questions within a technical discussion, and winding up with jumbled BS.


the first of the arguments was if the thing had ever actually been referred to as an "extractor",
then the question was "why".

I have answered the questions many times over.

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Travis, remove the exhaust system from your motor. Manifold also. Hit the green button. The motor will crank, the plugs will spark, the fuel mixture will ignite, the front piston will go down, the rear will come up, the process will start all over again. Oh, for the record, when the piston is on its up stroke, it will suck the fuel air charge into the cases, when the down stroke occurs, the charge will then be forced up through the intake ports in to the chamber, the piston will be coming back up. Charge gets compressed. Pow, ignition. Process starts all over again.

Guess what, the pipe is not on the motor. The motor is still running. You had one thing correct, the expansion chamber controls the sonic wave which in turns gives the motor its tuning characteristics.
 
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CoreyLKN said:
Ok so weve gone from an impossible wave pool jet ski thing to a capictor that isnt really a capicator and TL that isnt really TL and now airbrushes in your exhaust..

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Hey Corey, dont forget about the little mouse on the little wheel that when it runs the wheel turns creating a vacuum that sucks the air into the motor.
 
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Big Kahuna said:
Travis, remove the exhaust system from your motor. Manifold also. Hit the green button. The motor will crank, the plugs will spark, the fuel mixture will ignite, the front piston will go down, the rear will come up, the process will start all over again. Oh, for the record, when the piston is on its up stroke, it will suck the fuel air charge into the cases, when the down stroke occurs, the charge will then be forced up through the intake ports in to the chamber, the piston will be coming back up. Charge gets compressed. Pow, ignition. Process starts all over again.

Guess what, the pipe is not on the motor. The motor is still running. You had one thing correct, the expansion chamber controls the sonic wave which in turns gives the motor its tuning characteristics.
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yes, H, but the pipe extracts. that's why it's called an extractor. the negative pressure created by the wave pulls a/f through the engine. that's why a pipe is able to tune and enhance the performance and efficiency of the motor.
 
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.....here, Harrison.........
 

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Big Kahuna

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the WaTeRhAwK said:
yes, H, but the pipe extracts. that's why it's called an extractor. the negative pressure created by the wave pulls a/f through the engine. that's why a pipe is able to tune and enhance the performance and efficiency of the motor.
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mmmmmmkay.

Guess that extractor pipe works good with the 61x VForce Reeds.
 
the WaTeRhAwK

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no, what happened was I bought a '93 superjet off of this guy for 250.00 that had a 650 (6m6) (not 61x) set of cases and cobbled up set of dremel-tooled v-force reeds adapted to "fit", they chipped all to hell, went through the motor and scored the hell out of the cylinder walls. the cages were stock, and the dipsh!t I bought the ski from had tried to make the damned things fit, therefore I had to completely rip the motor apart and rebuild the top end, disassemble the bottom end to make sure all the crap was out of the engine. I told them they were v-force carbon reeds because I know what their reeds look like. they've given me hell about that every since I bought the damned thing.


you're right, H, never a dull moment.
 
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kraqus said:
I don't think this is a stupid tread....Brainstorming is how men accomplish great things in the end......

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Waterhawk – don’t ever let anyone take your dreams from you (unless you’re not being safe or you’re hurting others :nutkick:)!

I don’t have time for this thread right now, but I may get back to it! It can be done (would have to be the park someone mentioned though), and it can be done cost effectively with a producing profit…anything can!


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kraqus

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I do think is a good idea, costly, but good. However Stan mention the whole "River runs through it" concept and I still believe that would be the best scenario.....

Imagine a section where you have to go up against the stream while clearing obstacles, once you get to the top there would be a flat water section where you can perform whatever freestyle tricks you can imagine culminating towards the end where there would be "waves" created by concrete boulders strategically placed at the bottom of the river, you can jump these waves and do more aerials as you please......

Hey you have to impress the judges......that is right! This can be included in the X-games.


p.s: Good luck with the EnviroNAZIS and trying to divert a river though....:scared:



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tom21

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the WaTeRhAwK said:
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so where exactly in those diagrams is the "extraction" happening?

no where does it mention the pipe extracting/drawing exhaust away.

are you the guy on the car forum who was building the turbo that returned the exhaust into the carb that was gonna have infinite rpms?
 
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