Looking for 1st dirt bike.

[RoyalFlush@PCB]

yeah, saw that a couple of weeks ago.....



planning on playing dumb, being polite and playing the "its in the factory location" card.......

fingers crossed :usa2:


maybe we'll have good luck if traveling in a sea of orange

Crossing you fingers on a potential thousand dollar fine?!? :Eyecrazy:

Mmmmmmmmkay.....Not me, thank you very much. :burnout:

Remember when playing dumb that "ignorance of the law is not an excuse."

 

[Idok]

Crossing you fingers on a potential thousand dollar fine?!? :Eyecrazy:

Mmmmmmmmkay.....Not me, thank you very much. :burnout:

Remember when playing dumb that "ignorance of the law is not an excuse."

st. aug is a small town, and when you are respectful and polite to LEO's things like that are rarely an issue

period.

"wow, sorry officer. My license plate is mounted in the factory provided location..no modification whatsoever. I wasnt aware the license plate law was amended last month, but I will make the necessary changes the moment I return home."



this comes from living 33 years under the police chiefs thumb :biggthumpup:

 

[RoyalFlush@PCB]

st. aug is a small town, and when you are respectful and polite to LEO's things like that are rarely an issue

period.

I understand where you are coming from and agree that it probably isn't a priority to ticket someone for something that I feel is petty, BUT, rarely does not equal never.

Period.

I'll make you a deal, Scott: If you end up getting a thousand dollar ticket because of this petty law, can I be the first to say, "I told you so"???!!!??? :deal:

 

[butti]

if im ticketed for this i will be going to court over it.it is not possible to mount the plate under the oem tag light horizontily.it will only fit there vertical.

 

[Mark44]

We picked up Katie's bike on Saturday it has more hours than mine but it has been maintained very well and the guy was very cool, he pitched in some extra items on the deal.

The bike has a flywheel weight and makes it much easier for Katie to ride, it is a night and day difference in performance from my bike. We should have all our gear this week and ready to ride on Saturday.

Mark44

 

[Katie]

Well round two. My bike is in the same position as Marks is. No one titled it or paid sales tax. But to muk it up even more is the original owner is from Ohio and sold it to the guy in Missiouri I bought it from. Good God does anyone title these things or is a loyal citizen these days??? How can someone sell a bike that is NOT legally theres. My thought is if is it stolen how can you prove its yours? You don't have a title.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Well round two. My bike is in the same position as Marks is. No one titled it or paid sales tax. But to muk it up even more is the original owner is from Ohio and sold it to the guy in Missiouri I bought it from. Good God does anyone title these things or is a loyal citizen these days??? How can someone sell a bike that is NOT legally theres. My thought is if is it stolen how can you prove its yours? You don't have a title.

because if you are not gonna ride it on the road why Title it. Also, if you buy it used, and do not plan to ride on the road, if you go to title it, you will have to pay tax on it.... In Alabama you do not title bikes that are off road only, probably suppose to, but it does no good to go pay for tag that you cannot use. Most bikes are not street legal (Dirt).

 

[Mark44]

But if you never title the bike you don't really own the bike. I title my skis and don't ride them on the street and I missing something here? You don't have to get plates but if you title it it is legally yours.

Mark44

 

[yamaslut]

I bought a wave blaster that I never rode, but titled it in my name before I sold it... That's just being honest and decent to the next owner and covering your ass too... Like Mark said, the ski or bike will not legally yours unless you title it in your name.

 

[Mark44]

The guy I just got my bike off off will be going to court to pay after he receives his last request letter that I am mailing today. Received my packet of info from the court house and they recommend trying to handle it on your own then going to court if you have to. They also said the judge looks favorably on the plaintiff if he tries to resolve the issue without court.

If the guy would have just titled the bike he wouldn't have to go through all of this now he has to pay tax late fees and court cost.

Now I am on a mission and will not stop!

Mark44

 

[Katie]

because if you are not gonna ride it on the road why Title it. Also, if you buy it used, and do not plan to ride on the road, if you go to title it, you will have to pay tax on it.... In Alabama you do not title bikes that are off road only, probably suppose to, but it does no good to go pay for tag that you cannot use. Most bikes are not street legal (Dirt).

but the bikes we bought CAN be legally plated for one. Also if there is ever a doubt about ownership you cannot prove it if the title is not in your name. For example if the bike is towed you would have to prove ownership. If the bike is stolen etc. What if you loose the title?? No way of getting a lost title.

 

[butti]

because if you are not gonna ride it on the road why Title it. Also, if you buy it used, and do not plan to ride on the road, if you go to title it, you will have to pay tax on it.... In Alabama you do not title bikes that are off road only, probably suppose to, but it does no good to go pay for tag that you cannot use. Most bikes are not street legal (Dirt).

in florida you can not ride in the state parks unless you have a valid title.you MUST prove ownership.this includes out of state residents.it has been this way since 2003.

so baisicly a trailbike without a title in florida is pretty worthless since you can only ride it on private property

 

[Wolf Child]

wow... some of the things said in this thread sound so...."Familiar". lol

Mark. you and Katie did right.

Bring 'em to Daytona and we'll party.

 

[ridethelip]

Both of those bikes are good bikes. Don't get hung up on having an electric start. A 250 4 stroke is very, very, very easy to kick over. On the Yamahas, a good way to tell if the bike has been worn out off road is by looking at the swingarm stickers. Usually the more the bike has been hammered on, the more the OEM YAMAHA sticker will be trashed. Also, look at the frame under the footpegs. If the paint is gone, someone knew how to ride the bike hard.

Look at steering stops.High speed get off ghost ride will show there.Take someone who knows bikes with you when looking.

 

[Big Kahuna]

But if you never title the bike you don't really own the bike. I title my skis and don't ride them on the street and I missing something here? You don't have to get plates but if you title it it is legally yours.

Mark44

Guess what, In Alabama there is not Title on PWC's. Not sure about Motorcycles, maybe street only.........

The Bill of Sale if it is the original bill of sale with each person that has owned and sold written on the rear is a good way to go if you dont have it titled.

 

[Big Kahuna]

in florida you can not ride in the state parks unless you have a valid title.you MUST prove ownership.this includes out of state residents.it has been this way since 2003.

so baisicly a trailbike without a title in florida is pretty worthless since you can only ride it on private property

In Alabama you cannot ride on State Parks, National Parks or National Forrest. Regardless if your bike is street legal or now.....


I understand Katie about your bikes being "Legal" to title for street use, I was just throwing out a what if...... If those guys never planned to ride on the road...... I would not, I want knobbies on my bikes to have good traction, when you road ride them, they wear out really quick. Bike I had when I was 16 or so went through rear tires ever 5 months or so because I ripped it up through the neighborhood......... Illegal as hell! Wait, just remembered I did have to go title it, we bought it new from dealer, but after that never renewed anything on it.

 

[Mark44]

The guy is taking care of Katie's title but I am still taking my guy to small claims court.

Mark44

 

[zeski25]

this guy obviously does not know what he is talking about 300, 380? wtf??? get a japanese bike like ktm???? what is this guy talking about! lol get a 05 or newer 250f's they will be great to you and their is a great deal of parts in the market, DOO NOT GET KTM!

For her I would say a 125 two stroke or 250 four stroke. Lots of people will say get a XR200/230/250 but I say if she can ride an SJ, she can ride a real bike!

For you, well I wouldn't get anything smaller than a 250 two stroke. I would either get a 250, 300, 380 two stroke, or a 400, 426, 450, 525 ect four stroke.

Personally I used to have a YZ250 two stroke and loved that bike. Plenty of power, typical MX bike maintenance, decent parts prices, ect... I want another one but I think I will get a Yamaha (WR) or Honda (CRF/X) off road 450 four stroke and make it a dual sport. I plan to off road it more than on road it. Also electric start is a huge plus. It is so much easier to push the button then kick a new modern day fourstroke. As far as brands I think any Japanese (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, or Suzuki) or KTM bikes are all good bikes. As long as you get a newer bike that hasn't been dogged, maintenance issues won't be all that expensive. They are like skis though and you can sink all kinds of money into them without getting it back. I see more expenses with all the tools and riding gear. You will absolutely need a helmets, boots, goggles, and gloves. I recomend knee pads, a kidnet belt, and a chest protector too.

Good luck. I am going down this road myself but just haven't fully paid off all my debt so I will have to wait a little longer.

 

[Wolf Child]

this guy obviously does not know what he is talking about 300, 380? wtf??? get a japanese bike like ktm???? what is this guy talking about! lol get a 05 or newer 250f's they will be great to you and their is a great deal of parts in the market, DOO NOT GET KTM!

looks like you're the one that doesnt know what he's talking about.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

You are correct BK no title on bikes unless they are street legal and newer than 1975,no title on boats,ATV's or PWC's I have a 1975 TL 125 Honda trials bike that I used to ride to high school,I took in a bill of sale and got a tag,it had no lights whatsoever and nothing was ever said about it,a friend of mine used to ride a Suzuki TM 400 Cyclone to school ,same deal.