Modified X2 build (stripped the hull)

Vumad

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dbrutherford said:
I still would like to have an SXR bottom, X2 top deck, and an 100 tripple in there. BRAP! The light weight hull would make up for the 1100 weight.
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I brought this up in a discussion with Tom...

We came to the conclusion that we could get more power, easier with less weight with a modified 800 engine.
 
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dbrutherford said:
I am debating on buying the materials to make my own hood and ride plate. I want to do it right and use a vacuum pump/bags. The detail is in making the plug perfect before ever thinking of pulling a mold off of it. I am thinking of trying to make my own hood trim piece eventually too. As for mold cost, did you see where Highroller wanted around 5k for a complete super jett set of molds?

As for water box weight, Pete uses 94/95 water box foam to support the water box. Those years had foam that the box sat on instead of the rubber pedastools like all the 650 SX's and other X2's. I don't think an aftermkarket aluminum water box and 95 water box foam weighs all that much. I will have to weigh mine when I get a chance. I think it would be a good spot for a spare gas tank if you didn't mind the weight in the nose... Look up and see how much 2 gallons of gas weighs, probably around 10 pounds.

Also Pete moved his battery to under the seat. If you move yours and get a smaller battery, you can balance the weight really good with this mod.
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I don't need to make a mold unless I am going to produce the top decks for resale.

The bottom deck would not change except adding tubbies.

The top deck wouldn't have anymore added weight than any other modified X2. I would need to make a mold for the hood and lift a mold from that. No other molds would be necessary. oh, a hood liner.
 
dbrutherford

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Have at it! I am curios to see what you come up with.

If you make some carbon ride plates for practice I bet you would eb able ot sell a few no problems.

Rereading mhy posts I want ot clarify I mean 1100 BRAPASUROUS power. lol
 
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Hood design. I'd probably go with a custom bracket that works similar to the stock bracket. It would be larger and it wouldn't slide off. It'd bolt together like a pole bracket. Part to the ski and the other part to the hood liner.
 

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Scraggly

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Vumad said:
Hood design. I'd probably go with a custom bracket that works similar to the stock bracket. It would be larger and it wouldn't slide off. It'd bolt together like a pole bracket. Part to the ski and the other part to the hood liner.
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you need cad!!!
 
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after you use cad for awhile its not to hard to just freehand it like your saying. and image files are easy it just depends on your version of cad what command you use. tell me the version and ill give you the commands, its really not bad.

heres a bmp i just pulled from my screen, i usually dont do fab design or layout but this is for our parent company in Alabama im just trying to help them get in with honda right now.

i should be able to answer most of your cad ?'s fire away...
 

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Vumad

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X2 RAGS said:
after you use cad for awhile its not to hard to just freehand it like your saying. and image files are easy it just depends on your version of cad what command you use. tell me the version and ill give you the commands, its really not bad.

heres a bmp i just pulled from my screen, i usually dont do fab design or layout but this is for our parent company in Alabama im just trying to help them get in with honda right now.

i should be able to answer most of your cad ?'s fire away...
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An image like that is pretty easy to draw. It's basically a bunch of circles and the extrude function. A jet ski hull is thousands of concaved and convexed edges that slope and continueously change angle. A car or boat is significantly harder to draw accuratly than that image. Try drawing the bottom deck of an X2. It's an ass kicker.
 
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Vumad said:
An image like that is pretty easy to draw. It's basically a bunch of circles and the extrude function. A jet ski hull is thousands of concaved and convexed edges that slope and continueously change angle. A car or boat is significantly harder to draw accuratly than that image. Try drawing the bottom deck of an X2. It's an ass kicker.
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hey man i know thats not a complicated image i was using it as an example, didnt you learn what that is in elementary school? and yes i know that concaves and convexed angles are more complicated trust me that image above is about the simplest thing i have even done in cad and like i said above its not what i usually do. if you want to do a hull i suggest learning how surfaces work. it would be a lot easier then drawing with solids and a lot easier to edit.
 
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X2 RAGS said:
hey man i know thats not a complicated image i was using it as an example, didnt you learn what that is in elementary school? and yes i know that concaves and convexed angles are more complicated trust me that image above is about the simplest thing i have even done in cad and like i said above its not what i usually do. if you want to do a hull i suggest learning how surfaces work. it would be a lot easier then drawing with solids and a lot easier to edit.
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I'll have to look into the surface function more. I tried to use it in the past but I'm just not a very good at it.
 
tom21

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anyway ladies- I have to point out that your hinge won't open, as the hood will be hitting the hull. you either have to make the hood line on the bottom extend forward and flatten the hull ( gay ) or make it like a sj with hooks. or make a hollow nose to allow it to tip in and under. also like a standup.

now stop bickering about who can play with autocad better and DO something!!!!

Oh you can also mount the hing closer to the top of the hull and hood like a blaster. wow yamaha has all the good ideas. :sad6:
 
Vumad

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The hinge would work fine. There may be a better way to do it, but the way I drew it would work.

Kawi engines can hit hard. You're right, I should just buy a yamaha... that is... if I wanted a superjet or a blaster. I, however, just want a X2 that's easier to work on, has a better hood seal to protect from water ingestion and a project i can enjoy to consume some of my free time. With that in mind, this is probably the way to go for me.

Did you ever see my planes? I don't mind this kind of work. I like to build things.
 
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