Custom/Hybrid Rickter FR2 Evo sink question

It is kind of ironic that the guy that started a thread about it actually ended up being one of the first to find out.....
Hope you get it figured out Matt and I'm glad it floats!
 
Another option. Still has the ability for the hull to drain while riding, but will stop you from immediately swamping the ski if it goes upsidedown. Remove scupper flapp. Cut an aluminum plate to match the scupper hole. Drill a hole in the plate for versi plug, and mount versi plug to plate. Screw plate with versi plug into where scupper flap was.

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those ball valves only stay closed with water pressure is on them,when the ski is upside down they still allow the air to evac outa the hull in turn letting more water in,same as poping the vent on a gas tank...the rate is prolly 10x or more even with the smallest of air holes

a spring held one way plumbing valve is about all that works for this,even some of those dont seal well enough to make a diff when the ski turns over though
 

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those ball valves only stay closed with water pressure is on them,when the ski is upside down they still allow the air to evac outa the hull in turn letting more water in,same as poping the vent on a gas tank...the rate is prolly 10x or more even with the smallest of air holes

a spring held one way plumbing valve is about all that works for this,even some of those dont seal well enough to make a diff when the ski turns over though

Understood, but the volume of water the versi allow via air loss.... if you have your breather hoses routed correctly, is very limited. The hole on the versi is tiny. But yes its def more then if there is no scupper/holes in the hull. My RRP scupper would allow the hull to take on tons of water, REAL FAST. I had my rickter washed away from me, upside down, while I took 3 min swim last week. After flipping the ski back over the single 500 bilge didnt even run for 10seconds. If I had my stock rrp scupper it would have swamped like a brick. My point is that ANYTHING is better then the stock rrp scupper. I am sold on the versi after using it all last season. I have never had luck with plumbing one ways sealing, but thats not to say they wont work well for others.
 
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Understood, but the volume of water the versi allow via air loss.... if you have your breather hoses routed correctly, is very limited. The hole on the versi is tiny. But yes its def more then if there is no scupper/holes in the hull. My RRP scupper would allow the hull to take on tons of water, REAL FAST. I had my rickter washed away from me, upside down, while I took 3 min swim last week. After flipping the ski back over the single 500 bilge didnt even run for 10seconds. If I had my stock rrp scupper it would have swamped like a brick. My point is that ANYTHING is better then the stock rrp scupper. I am sold on the versi after using it all last season. I have never had luck with plumbing one ways sealing, but thats not to say they wont work well for others.

General, non-RRP specific comment:
That right there is pretty much why I swore off scuppers. I had my Freak built without the standard scupper tube and used just a stock siphon bilge and two 500gph pumps. Like your example, the boat would get away from me at times and sit upside down for a while. Always started right back up and had minimal water in it.

I'll have to figure out something for my upcoming Footrocket build. It comes with scupper.
 

shawn_NJ

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General, non-RRP specific comment:
That right there is pretty much why I swore off scuppers. I had my Freak built without the standard scupper tube and used just a stock siphon bilge and two 500gph pumps. Like your example, the boat would get away from me at times and sit upside down for a while. Always started right back up and had minimal water in it.

I'll have to figure out something for my upcoming Footrocket build. It comes with scupper.

I agree, I was very anti scupper after a bad experience with a oneway valve scupper years back. I have to say the versiplug "block off" setup is a good compromise, allowing draining and not swamping in 15secs if it goes upside down. I had my ski upside down floating 50' away from me atleast 15times this daytona trip. (mad skills!) Not once did the ski take on any significant amount of water. It performed much better then I expected. I could even beach the ski, and could leave it on the waters edge without the hull taking on water. Last year I did the same with rickter scupper and the engine bay was 1/2 filled after a 15min break.
 
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I guess that is a disadvantage to blocking to scupper... When you bilges go out... Your screwed? At least in a stock hull (unless removed) there is the stock siphon bilge. I can't remember if we have a notch on our pumps or not for it. If we do, it might not be a bad idea to put yours back in there.

Glad to hear it floats! Sorry to hear about your trouble.

Im pretty sure my ski leaks too... Not sure if it's the midshaft or the scupper. I know Jakes ski leaked BAD! But when I first drop my ski in the water off the trailer, then I come down to the launch, like you... I have some quite a bit of water shoot out when I fire up the bilge.
 
I guess that is a disadvantage to blocking to scupper... When you bilges go out... Your screwed? At least in a stock hull (unless removed) there is the stock siphon bilge. I can't remember if we have a notch on our pumps or not for it. If we do, it might not be a bad idea to put yours back in there.

Glad to hear it floats! Sorry to hear about your trouble.

Im pretty sure my ski leaks too... Not sure if it's the midshaft or the scupper. I know Jakes ski leaked BAD! But when I first drop my ski in the water off the trailer, then I come down to the launch, like you... I have some quite a bit of water shoot out when I fire up the bilge.

Thrust did put a siphon bilge on our nozzles I just need to put it in
 
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