RICKTER talk

Big Kahuna

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Tuscaloosa, AL
My Edge has them. They are larger than the older ones. Yes, they put more pressure so to speak. Or maintain pressure. Remove and the nose lifts more. More playfull bit less stable at speed.
 
Whats the concensus on rolling your ski? Had a few crashes this year where I had to roll my fs2 back over and it wouldn't start for 20 minutes because it must of injested some water. 701 with stock carbs and intake system. Try starting it right away? Wait? What's best?

I think stock intakes is the best system to run to try and avoid this issue correct? Anything else I can do besides not yardsale my sky upside down

Thanks
 
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LOTO
Any water gets inside the engine and I would want to get it started ASAP so the bearings and other things don't start to rust. Then ride a tank or so thru it to get all the water out and dry it out.
 
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Stockton
From the back of the ski and facing the ski, roll it counter clockwise, making the pipe, chamber, exhaust manifold and cylinder on high ground as it rolls back over.. my 02
 

Big Kahuna

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Whats the concensus on rolling your ski? Had a few crashes this year where I had to roll my fs2 back over and it wouldn't start for 20 minutes because it must of injested some water. 701 with stock carbs and intake system. Try starting it right away? Wait? What's best?

I think stock intakes is the best system to run to try and avoid this issue correct? Anything else I can do besides not yardsale my sky upside down

Thanks
My hood let's water in. I am running a double hood seal also...
 
Is it normal to have 1/2 to 3/4" water in the hull of an an fs2 with rickter flap scupper only? This is after pulling it onto my beach tote after some mild lake riding.

Atleast once a day i have a decent crash and a hard starting issue for 10 mins or until after it dries out. I think I'm holding enough water to splash in my oem airboxes and carbs.

Oem Coupler cover is installed.

Wondering if anyone thinks going thrust ball scupper, rickter versa plug or bilge would be wise and lower the water my ski is holding. I don't realy trust the flap and the hood seal is good .

I just chase boats and some lake waves. No surf

Thanks
 
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Is it normal to have 1/2 to 3/4" water in the hull of an an fs2 with rickter flap scupper only? This is after pulling it onto my beach tote after some mild lake riding.

Atleast once a day i have a decent crash and a hard starting issue for 10 mins or until after it dries out. I think I'm holding enough water to splash in my oem airboxes and carbs.

Oem Coupler cover is installed.

Wondering if anyone thinks going thrust ball scupper, rickter versa plug or bilge would be wise and lower the water my ski is holding. I don't realy trust the flap and the hood seal is good .

I just chase boats and some lake waves. No surf

Thanks
Scuppers are great if they actually seal and you never crash. The problem is they often leak and most riders occasionally crash . Will your ski sink? If so, think about possible outcomes.
 
Scuppers are great if they actually seal and you never crash. The problem is they often leak and most riders occasionally crash . Will your ski sink? If so, think about possible outcomes.
I've never had it sink or stay upside down for more than 10 seconds but I'm sure getting a splash of water in the carbs is what's happening. Pretty sure the fs2 is foamed and won't sink anyways
 
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LOTO
I would worry if the amount of foam in your Rickter would float it if it was completely swamped. I added as many pool noodles as I could to the front of ours.
We had a lot of water in the hull with our XFS until I got rid of the scuppers and Installed a ball valves. IMO scuppers are great for freestyle tricks on short rides, but not for general lake riding.
 
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Stockton
Is it normal to have 1/2 to 3/4" water in the hull of an an fs2 with rickter flap scupper only? This is after pulling it onto my beach tote after some mild lake riding.

Atleast once a day i have a decent crash and a hard starting issue for 10 mins or until after it dries out. I think I'm holding enough water to splash in my oem airboxes and carbs.

Oem Coupler cover is installed.

Wondering if anyone thinks going thrust ball scupper, rickter versa plug or bilge would be wise and lower the water my ski is holding. I don't realy trust the flap and the hood seal is good .

I just chase boats and some lake waves. No surf

Thanks

Seems unlikely with a stock air box, I have water standing in eng bay too and stock air box on a different hull and it always restarts after a failed maneuver.

Water can enter the cylinders pretty easy thru the exhaust if it’s a lay down pipe but harder with a b-pipe, you really gotta sink the back…

How are your low screws set, as far as turns out from closed. I had a buddies ski that needed a smaller low jet but he didn’t want it done. So I compensated with the low speed adjuster… we’ll when he fell off the ski wouldn’t restart…

The idle circuit was too lean for hot restart and needed more fuel (low adjusters opened more)
 
I would worry if the amount of foam in your Rickter would float it if it was completely swamped. I added as many pool noodles as I could to the front of ours.
We had a lot of water in the hull with our XFS until I got rid of the scuppers and Installed a ball valves. IMO scuppers are great for freestyle tricks

Seems unlikely with a stock air box, I have water standing in eng bay too and stock air box on a different hull and it always restarts after a failed maneuver.

Water can enter the cylinders pretty easy thru the exhaust if it’s a lay down pipe but harder with a b-pipe, you really gotta sink the back…

How are your low screws set, as far as turns out from closed. I had a buddies ski that needed a smaller low jet but he didn’t want it done. So I compensated with the low speed adjuster… we’ll when he fell off the ski wouldn’t restart…

The idle circuit was too lean for hot restart and needed more fuel (low adjusters opened more)
Apreciate the advise. Ski was tuned by the previous owner and ran great 5 years straight. Still runs great just maybe once a day if I crash super bad it hard starts.
 
I have run only a scupper for the past 2 or 3 years. Surf and flatwater. No bilge. Have not sunk a rickter yet on accident. Rickter foamed hulls will float. Pool noodles do not add anything except a false peace of mind.

I regularly roll the ski over. I don't have issues with intrusion usually. I don't let go. I blip the throttle the entire time I ride. And if I roll the ski in the water, I keep it running. My idle is set just below the transition to the idle circuit. High. It's important to not be in the transition if you want proper tuning.

You should not be coming unattached from the ski. Ever. Newbs do, but if you don't want to break your face, hold onto those bars no matter what. That will also allow you to keep the engine running with your finger.

These engines can, and do, drink water constantly. To verify a water issue, swim it to shore next time it won't start and check a plug.

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I have run only a scupper for the past 2 or 3 years. Surf and flatwater. No bilge. Have not sunk a rickter yet on accident. Rickter foamed hulls will float. Pool noodles do not add anything except a false peace of mind.

I regularly roll the ski over. I don't have issues with intrusion usually. I don't let go. I blip the throttle the entire time I ride. And if I roll the ski in the water, I keep it running. My idle is set just below the transition to the idle circuit. High. It's important to not be in the transition if you want proper tuning.

You should not be coming unattached from the ski. Ever. Newbs do, but if you don't want to break your face, hold onto those bars no matter what. That will also allow you to keep the engine running with your finger.

These engines can, and do, drink water constantly. To verify a water issue, swim it to shore next time it won't start and check a plug.

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After my 16 XFR (fiberglass) sunk, I wouldn’t think any aftermarket ski will float.
 

Big Kahuna

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I have run only a scupper for the past 2 or 3 years. Surf and flatwater. No bilge. Have not sunk a rickter yet on accident. Rickter foamed hulls will float. Pool noodles do not add anything except a false peace of mind.

I regularly roll the ski over. I don't have issues with intrusion usually. I don't let go. I blip the throttle the entire time I ride. And if I roll the ski in the water, I keep it running. My idle is set just below the transition to the idle circuit. High. It's important to not be in the transition if you want proper tuning.

You should not be coming unattached from the ski. Ever. Newbs do, but if you don't want to break your face, hold onto those bars no matter what. That will also allow you to keep the engine running with your finger.

These engines can, and do, drink water constantly. To verify a water issue, swim it to shore next time it won't start and check a plug.

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My Scupper on my Edge has leaked from day 1. My Hood also was defective from the factory. The lip that is suppose to be straight actually has a huge belly in it (if you flip hood over and look down it, abouta 3/16" valley) Run a double seal to help this issue. But water still gets in when I hit water inverted and sub it..... Having a bilge is just extra security. One of those things that it really cannot hurt you to have it.
 
Yeah. Thats what I was told. Was also told scupper skis sink in seconds when they go upside down. I rode surf for probably 5 years before I started not running a bilge. It's more of a pain in the ass imo. Everytime I've seen a sunk ski, it had a bilge. Not saying don't run one. Just you can totally get by without.

My xfr definitely floats in the river current. Possibly not now with the billet engine and stainless pump, being less buoyant, but I still have 0 fear of losing it in the water.

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