So I been thinking of putting a carterB kit on my blaster the one with the spray gaurd, but there is also 701 industries rocker kit. Anyone tried both and can tell me there personal feed back. I'm definitely doing carterb rear mod. I hear it makes side mount easy and will help with flips and slashing waves.
Rocker question
- Thread starter wes0
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yamabro
GP Performance / Patterson Powersports
- Location
- Dickson, Tn.
I think the 701 rocker kit is Carterb's.
- Location
- Midland, Ontario, Canada
No they are different...701 kit Is a rubber type you bolt on vs the carterb kit you glass on...similar function but very different parts
yamabro
GP Performance / Patterson Powersports
- Location
- Dickson, Tn.
Cool, Thanks for the update on the difference
- Location
- Cape May Court House, NJ
I dont have a blaster, but have tuned and worked on 4 or so in the last 5-6 months. 2 had both front and rear rocker, one had only front rocker and one had front rocker, had no rear rocker, but was shortened like 6 inches.
The skis with rear rocker were very strange to ride, all they wanted to do was lift the nose. Took a lot of body movement and positioning (aka laying over the bars) to be able to pull a holeshot and keep the pump hooked up.
The ski that was shortened but had no rear rocker was by far the best handling ski out of all of them. It carved well, felt stable, you could run WOT without porposing and jumping out of the water. It was a vast improvement over stock with no drawbacks that I noticed. I should also not this ski was flat decked and had a front foothold and rear strap which made riding surf stance possible.
With that being said I had none of these skis in the surf, and I try not to ride blasters as much as possible so my opinion might not mean a whole lot.
The skis with rear rocker were very strange to ride, all they wanted to do was lift the nose. Took a lot of body movement and positioning (aka laying over the bars) to be able to pull a holeshot and keep the pump hooked up.
The ski that was shortened but had no rear rocker was by far the best handling ski out of all of them. It carved well, felt stable, you could run WOT without porposing and jumping out of the water. It was a vast improvement over stock with no drawbacks that I noticed. I should also not this ski was flat decked and had a front foothold and rear strap which made riding surf stance possible.
With that being said I had none of these skis in the surf, and I try not to ride blasters as much as possible so my opinion might not mean a whole lot.
- Location
- new jersey
Lolol
air blair
you are the reason
- Location
- thumb, mich again
Carter b kit is the way to go. Splash gaurd for sure.
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Air blair cell
- Location
- eastern shore md
I can't speak on the 701 kit. I have rode the rocker front only, rocker front and tails rear, and a just rear chop one. I decided to only do the carter tails on my current ski im assembling right now for wavedaze. There will be no more spray then stock, rides like stock cause you have the full rear tray. But will turn and flip much better. I do both river and ocean riding, so its the happy medium. once you rocker the front kiss any speed goodbye.
No necessarily true, it depends on how the rocker is designed. There are plenty of skis out there with plenty of rocker that will run fine at top speeds, it all depends on the transition into the main running length of the hull.
- Location
- Cape May Court House, NJ
Also disagree, I was still able to get all of the hulls I tuned up to speed, but some took a lot more effort and a lot of trial and error to find the correct body position.
- Location
- eastern shore md
let me rephrase it with little to no spray
I also road the 1st rocker kit design by carter I'm sure anything has less spray
I also road the 1st rocker kit design by carter I'm sure anything has less spray
701 Kit works about 70% as well as a Rocker Nose kit
Blaster Kits -
there are 4 moulds i believe, 5 nose types..
Zipties nose kit, super steep nose, very short. (friday's in W.A. has kit)- hardcore turning, short as, which is awesome, a poop load of water in your face - splash guard will fix that. - Skis that have similar or same. (matt's new blaster, fibbo's blaster, keirens Blaster) - Loses gas cap, not good at top speed.
Player 1 Blaster Nose. Gradual Rocker, Small chines - (no production copies available). no spray, a lot looser and slides more than above and a bit longer, ski still goes flat out no problem.. keeps gas gap. rotates smooth as there is little impact resistance.
Carter B new nose (my nose, upgraded to try and get the best of both worlds, is available). - Longer, turns quite hard, a bit of splash, no splash guard. Has more aggressive chines up the sides so grips well.. keeps gas cap - however you could bond it closer to make it shorter.
(Luke Rotoloniewithcheese has it, I have it on other b1, and i think a few others, about 8 skis or so, now ever more in the states.)
Jay's new nose / Super steep still - ( no moulds yet) - hardcore turning (like 1st nose), shortish, no spray, has splash guard. I'd say this is Gen 2 of "zipties nose". definitely a bit better. - Loses gas cap
Carter B V2 of above - adds splash Guard.
Personally i like my longer nose, but i also love the shorter nose and the hardcore turning of jays nose. it's like having 2 surfboards, one fun board and one comp board. The less agressive noses go through the lip better, the more agressive harder. the bigger the surf, the less agro you want the nose. The nose is meant to compliment the curve of the wave. With every wave different. that should be easy as.
The rear end. The shorter, the faster it rotates.
It makes regular trick quite hard. But as see here with Pierre (2min mark). You just start doing everything inverted. Thats the Player1 Blaster nose and the rear chopped to just before the the pump tunnel bolts
People are now cutting shorter than the pump tunnel bolts , but letting the tunnel hang out like a jet boat. that will be interesting. Or just buy a reaper, somewhere completely new and different.
Blaster Kits -
there are 4 moulds i believe, 5 nose types..
Zipties nose kit, super steep nose, very short. (friday's in W.A. has kit)- hardcore turning, short as, which is awesome, a poop load of water in your face - splash guard will fix that. - Skis that have similar or same. (matt's new blaster, fibbo's blaster, keirens Blaster) - Loses gas cap, not good at top speed.
Player 1 Blaster Nose. Gradual Rocker, Small chines - (no production copies available). no spray, a lot looser and slides more than above and a bit longer, ski still goes flat out no problem.. keeps gas gap. rotates smooth as there is little impact resistance.
Carter B new nose (my nose, upgraded to try and get the best of both worlds, is available). - Longer, turns quite hard, a bit of splash, no splash guard. Has more aggressive chines up the sides so grips well.. keeps gas cap - however you could bond it closer to make it shorter.
(Luke Rotoloniewithcheese has it, I have it on other b1, and i think a few others, about 8 skis or so, now ever more in the states.)
Jay's new nose / Super steep still - ( no moulds yet) - hardcore turning (like 1st nose), shortish, no spray, has splash guard. I'd say this is Gen 2 of "zipties nose". definitely a bit better. - Loses gas cap
Carter B V2 of above - adds splash Guard.
Personally i like my longer nose, but i also love the shorter nose and the hardcore turning of jays nose. it's like having 2 surfboards, one fun board and one comp board. The less agressive noses go through the lip better, the more agressive harder. the bigger the surf, the less agro you want the nose. The nose is meant to compliment the curve of the wave. With every wave different. that should be easy as.
The rear end. The shorter, the faster it rotates.
It makes regular trick quite hard. But as see here with Pierre (2min mark). You just start doing everything inverted. Thats the Player1 Blaster nose and the rear chopped to just before the the pump tunnel bolts
People are now cutting shorter than the pump tunnel bolts , but letting the tunnel hang out like a jet boat. that will be interesting. Or just buy a reaper, somewhere completely new and different.
- Location
- sw fl
are they still manufacturing these? haven't herd too much about it lately..
- Location
- sw fl
thanks!
- Location
- Amherst NH
If you rocker the rear be prepared to cruise at low speeds with the nose pointing at the sun. I had a rear rockered ski for a month or more last summer. The no wake zone I had to cruise through coupled with the leaky 701 plugs in the rear made it quite fun to get the ski on plane and stay there without being all over the throttle. Also when you chop the rear the ski porpoises a lot , a lot worse than the Polaris Hurricane did.
- Location
- Amherst NH
Heres another rocker choice.
Leaky plugs, im sure if this was the case the owner would have contacted me, but he never did and I actually saw them sold on this forum after the ski was stripped with no mention of leaking. Surely you think he would of told the new buyer of this issue. It was more than likely leaking through elsewhere ie pump bolts, foot straps or maybe who did the rear chop did a ordinary job. But to say it was the plugs actually defies the laws of physics .