Super Jet Solas Mag Pump Ate My Bearings- How About You?

[XJCrawler]

I've setup 3 of them, all will no issues. Make sure you press the bearings in properly

 

[CRJ]

easiest way to do the install.

bearing #1 in freezer, stator in the ovenat 250* for 15 min. remove both and install bearing into the stator.

stator and bearing one in the oven again, bearing 2 in oven, driveshaft in freezer. remove bearing 2 and driveshaft, install bearing 2 on end of shaft.

bearing 2 and shaft i freezer, remove shaft and stator, install shaft and bearing into stator and bearing 1. tap to seat, let equalise.


I have done this for axle gears, uniballs, and drive bearings. no press needed if your quick.

 

[DAG]

CRJ, How ya grease pack that pump

 

[CRJ]

i used a grease gun to force it through the bearings and fill the case. worked great last season.

 

[DAG]

lol

 

[augustaf]

I've setup 3 of them, all will no issues. Make sure you press the bearings in properly

My housings were simply too tight, after "proper" installation the bearings were " hard to turn " - no clearance for the balls.

 

[CRJ]

Life sucks when theres no clearance for the balls.

 

[623pwr]

Have you guys tried dry ice? I did that for a different application. The metal actually shrieks, its pretty crazy. Make sure you wear gloves so you don't burn your hands.

Example # 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDw0vIsMU-8


Example # 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WeUoyEgfrE

 

[High Speed Industries]

easiest way to do the install.

bearing #1 in freezer, stator in the ovenat 250* for 15 min. remove both and install bearing into the stator.

stator and bearing one in the oven again, bearing 2 in oven, driveshaft in freezer. remove bearing 2 and driveshaft, install bearing 2 on end of shaft.

bearing 2 and shaft i freezer, remove shaft and stator, install shaft and bearing into stator and bearing 1. tap to seat, let equalise.


I have done this for axle gears, uniballs, and drive bearings. no press needed if your quick.

Did you read my thread? Lol
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/137372
That method worked great for me. Heating and cooling is the way to go.

 

[wanderer1]

Did you read my thread? Lol
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/137372
That method worked great for me. Heating and cooling is the way to go.

Yeah man you found a new way to the sun all on your own

 

[tor*p*do]

If the clearances are not correct, it doesn't matter how it is assembled.
As it runs and heats, the bearings get crushed.
It is hit or miss if the mag pump clearances are OK or too tight.
Mine are too tight.

 

[Jyzmbe]

This thread broke my heart. I was set on getting an Solas mag but now I'm scared

 

[RSKI]

This thread broke my heart. I was set on getting an Solas mag but now I'm scared

My solas is working great. If you're too worried buy a 144 skat mag, mcdog has a nice used one for sale.

 

[Byeai]

All u have to do it go to a machine shop and give them the pump and bearing and tell them to measure it and if its tighter than 1 thousandths press fit then tell them to get a flap wheel and make it a 1 thousandths press fit and you will be fine it should be around $30 easy peezy

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[kevbo]

This thread broke my heart. I was set on getting an Solas mag but now I'm scared

Dont be scared, it is a great product with one potential problem. Now everyone knows what to look for and its nothing that a few minutes with fine sand paper cant fix.

 

[john zigler]

All u have to do it go to a machine shop and give them the pump and bearing and tell them to measure it and if its tighter than 1 thousandths press fit then tell them to get a flap wheel and make it a 1 thousandths press fit and you will be fine it should be around $30 easy peezy

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Or as stated above, buy one from us. ALL in inventory are checked, and clearanced.

https://www.watcon.com/jet-pump-drive-line/solas-jet-pumps/solas-jet-pumps-1-2-3

 

[Jyzmbe]

ok I just placed my order with Watcon. Solas mag is going into the new superjet. I've heard great things about both the stock +08 impeller and the 9/15 hooker. if the stock impeller is a good combo not sure I should spend the extra cash on a hooker

 

[227]

A few years back I paid $1500+ for a used Skat Trak Mag pump. I never got more than 6 months use before I had to have it completely rebuilt. To be fair, at that time I was riding a lot, and my riding was 100% Salt water so some may look upon it as harsh riding conditions. But all in all, I sent it in three times to Skat Trak to be rebuilt before I ultimately decided I couldn't afford the maintenance of a mag pump. The first time I sent it in I was a little concerned that I only got 6 months use before it needed to be rebuilt. I had Glen check the pump over completely, all specs, alignment, etc. (Because I bought it used) the bill was $600 for a complete rebuild and prop welding. The second time, about 6 months later, I sent it in again for the same service. The bill was $700. Both times when I spoke with Glen he assured me I wasn't being over charged and that was what the pump needed to be "Good as new" The third time, not only did it need the regular rebuild, the aluminum pump housing had split from the Stainless steel stator section due to electrolysis between the two different metals used in the pumps construction, and presumably from being used in the ocean. The repair bill was $900 and change. I paid the $900 but sold the repaired pump and reinstalled my OEM pump. That was two years ago and I have had ZERO problems with the OEM pump. No need for a rebuild, nothing. Same ski, same riding conditions.

I'm certainly not sold that the Skat Trak pumps are any better than the Solas, and I'm 100% positive Skat Trak gouges the hell out of their customers on their repair bills. I'm not sure if the new Skat Trak Superjet Mag pumps are all Stainless now, but at the time I dealt with them, their pumps where still a SS Stator pressed into the OEM housing, so simply for the fact that the Solas Mag pump is 100% Stainless Steel, that in itself is a superior design that would eliminate half of the problems I had. Despite the issues I'm reading about here that the Solas pumps have had in the past, the Skat Traks have their issues also, and thanks to this thread, a solution for the Solas pumps weakness has been found.

In the future, when I am in the market for another Mag pump, buying a Solas at 1/3 the cost of a Skat Trak, is pretty much a no brainer. Just make sure it has been gone over by Cold Fusion or Watcon so the bugs are worked out and any way you look at it your still saving almost 2/3 the price by not going with a Skat Trak

 

[wanderer1]

Sorry to hear that but I mentioned that somewhere earlier in this thread.

 

[FlightPlanDan]

I'm waiting for the 18 vane-osmotic-pressure-flux-titanium-ion filtering-featherlight-salinity solvent-bearing free-stress reducing-child friendly-installer proof-barge pushing pump from hell.

As soon as I can find a shop to fix my "uranium P32 space modulator", I'll get right on what seems to be a minor machining issue causing major problems.

Sorry to joke about it.
Sometimes a thousandth, or even a half matters.