Custom/Hybrid SUPERFREAK talk

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Zack Bright. I Thrash.
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this guy is a beast. over 2 hours non stop with constant fast paced riding. in all that time i think you only burnt about 4 gallons. but, man were you throwing some sick flips.

thanks bud.

you know what i love in life.... what i just :):):):)ing enjoy....... sitting down, writing a 5 paragraph ride report, getting the blue screen of death , having my computer freeze and shut down loosing everything i just wrote..... NICE..... ill do it later im pissed.
 
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BIG Thanks to all who tried out the skis , it gave me a good handle on how to set up future demo skis ( long pole , normal ride plate and the standard rocker ).
I have a fetish with super responsive surfboard type handling skis for the smaller surf we get in Florida most of the time and the red ski is set up that way , it's my personal ski and I LOVE it but it is a Mr. Toads wild ride . The flat water -4.3" skis are more stable than the red one and it would have been a better choice on my part as a second demo ski .

We are going to try to do a road trip and ride with West coast crew this Spring ! I was blown away with how you guys ripped on the trashy small surf we had at the ride , very impressive !

Thanks for the fantastic input and a chance to ride and meet with the greatest riders on the planet !!!!

Thanks Nick for all the effort to make the freeride happen !
 
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Aircraftsalz

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bummed I didnt get a chance to try it..next time


I'm going to talk with Lucas & try to get him up to the Spot this weekend,,,, Surfs looking decent for Saturday. Will have to see what happens, but hes got that black SF... I'm trying to make up my mind -2 or full length, lucas says full lenght... U working Sat?
 
josh, i think i'm going to do a full length glass one for the surf. i don't think i ride enough to justify both skis, but man i don't think i can give up surf riding and be a flatwater only guy.
 

Waternut

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One thing I noted both on this thread and on the beach... People seemed to think that the red ski (-2" with more rocker) was fairly unstable but I think this had more to do with the conditions than the actual hull itself. I want to point out that the surf was very choppy. I'm used to riding my stunt hull on flat water and I consider it to be pretty stable and I rarely drop down into the water when jumping boat wakes. Normally, I plant my feet in the holds and stay that way until I stop to rest. However, in that surf over the 3 days, my stunt hull was difficult to ride and I dropped out of the footholds to regain my balance often. That said, I found the red hull to be very stable compared to my stunt hull and thought it cut through the chop like a dream. I actually dropped out of the footholds less on the red ski than I did on the black ski.

The point I'm trying to make above is; although the red ski may have been a little unstable in the surf to some, it is my belief that on flatwater and cleaner surf, the hull will be much more manageable and probably more enjoyable since it has the potential to be more manueverable.
 

AtomicPunk

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We are going to try to do a road trip and ride with West coast crew this Spring ! I was blown away with how you guys ripped on the trashy small surf we had at the ride , very impressive !

West coast of FL right? :clown: Come slum with us for a while too (before it gets too flat).
 
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Josh and Scott , I'm in for a surf ride this weekend , didn't get to ride much last weekend . We can put the standard ride plate on my -2" ski and you can try the full length ski back to back.

I'm so stoked to catch some Hurricane pass rides this year ! I'm going to try not to be ski - less again .
 
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Josh and Scott , I'm in for a surf ride this weekend , didn't get to ride much last weekend . We can put the standard ride plate on my -2" ski and you can try the full length ski back to back.

I'm so stoked to catch some Hurricane pass rides this year ! I'm going to try not to ski less again .

Tem, I will give you a shout next week. Curious to see everyone's opinon of these different lengths and what the ride plate will do for it. Still thinking the the -1.25" plug might be the right option for me. Wish I could have been at the freeride.
 
First off Tem is a great guy and I wish I could have spent more time talking with him. My review of riding skis that are not set up any where close to how I would set mine up, riding in really bad conditions, and with lots of back pain should not really be taken to hear by anyone.

One of the most critical things for me to be comfortable on a ski is a decent length handle pole...in Daytona my back was wrecked by Sunday and short poles really are the worst for me. A short pole does two things, it keeps you constantly bent forward which makes my back tight and prevents me from moving how I would like, but more important for a short guy like me it prevents me from being able to transition my weight rearward which is a super important part of making a boat turn correctly.

I can't say that I could give you a really fair assessment of either of the two demo boats (red or black) that were there. I rode both of them pretty poorly and was in a ton of pain. But I will do my best to give a good honest review of the limited experience I had with them, and I did get some insight in to their capabilities. I did have the chance to spend a little more time on Corey's boat which was an older stock length version, so I will end with that one.

Red: I can't really speak to the handling of this boat because the pole was super short and I just basically fell down a lot when I tried to turn it or roll it. The ski did not ride nose high at all but was probably the easiest ski to flip that I have ever ridden. And it was stable. I would love to have the chance to ride that boat with about 6 inches added to the pole. The other thing that was difficult for me was the foot hold placement was like 4 inches forward from the rear of the ski. Which made things feel a little awkward especially trying to roll the boat. Easy fix for me would be to run a strap in the rear. I would really love to have a chance to ride this hull with those two issues sorted out! I think it has a ton of potential, especially as a small wave ski.

Black: This ski was about 400% more comfortable for me because of the longer pole, a little longer would still have been better as far as the pole goes. But the hull felt great. I still had issues trying to roll the ski, and I think that is a combo of footholds and pole but has nothing to do with the hull itself. The boat turns quite well as far as I could tell and even with my inability to get my weight back there was never any time where I felt like it was going to pearl. And the hull was quite stable and pretty easy to recover on. When you consider that the hull was only 56 lbs, it really is amazing how well this hull worked. Again, flipping the hull is ridiculously easy. I don't remember what motor they were running 7xx but it felt like good running 1000. I'm certainly a fan of this package and if I lived in Florida I would really consider buying this hull. And if I had to compete in conditions like we had in Daytona I think this would have been at the top of my list, (provided I had time to get used to it and set it up to suit me.)

Corey's Red/Orange older version hull.
My favorite boat of the weekend. Foot holds were too big to lock in to, but when the ski handled as well as it did, who cares. Stock length hull with footholds all the way back, comfortable pole length, super fun to ride. The motor in that ski was an old tired 61x with a b-pipe, and if I had not ridden the other two Superfreak hulls I would have told you this was the easiest boat to flip I rode there. I rode the ski for 10 or so minutes, super happy that I had finally found something that would turn and not destroy my back. (The Rickter I was riding was pretty great, but was a little limited with the steering setup on it.) I've ridden lots of skis and can usually get a pretty good idea of how a boat will flip by riding it around, but I way misjudged this thing. This is was the first time I have ever been really surprised by how unexpectedly quickly the boat comes around...and I think that is the best part of this hull. It is really stable handles well, and flips incredibly easily.

All this being said, I can't really tell you how the skis handle in the surf...I still don't really know. I would love to ride one of these boats in a heavier fiberglass version, probably stock length but maybe with a rocker profile like the red hull in some clean sizable surf. I'd also like to try a set of tubbies on them...the tubbies give you a pivot point close to the front of the ski that is just can not be duplicated with rocker profile.

Overall, I love Tem and his approach and I hope this is just the beginning for him. For quality of construction/price I think he can seems to be the top guy at this point.
 

Aircraftsalz

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Well said Ross.... We hope to make the pismo trip in March & me & Lucas are both build heavier fiberglass versions, full length...

Thanks for the Tubbie input, I never even thought about tubbies on one of these hulls..
 

DangerBoy

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Well said Ross.... We hope to make the pismo trip in March & me & Lucas are both build heavier fiberglass versions, full length...

Thanks for the Tubbie input, I never even thought about tubbies on one of these hulls..

thats the ski I want to ride on the west coast
full length fiberglass . Will yours have the rear rocker ?
Db
 
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Thanks for the report Ross ! I hope to have some skis set up better for you to ride next time . The general consensus was for the longer pole and foot wells moved back and a strap both TC. and Mark G. said the same thing . Wish we had more time, I would love to test (surf ride) with you someday for a few days and really get it dialed in. Thanks again Ross you are such a class act .

I hope to make Pismo !
 
you are right about corys orange boat Ross....when we first put that thing together it had a trainwreck of parst on it including a couch motor....

never been on a ski before (other than a stock 650) where I could just point it and pin it, and ride it WFO



cant wait to try it again with a good motor and proper pole on it
 

Aircraftsalz

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thats the ski I want to ride on the west coast
full length fiberglass . Will yours have the rear rocker ?
Db

I'm going to ride the Blk full length same rocker as my FW badass this weekend, & another ride on the Red one with more Rocker -2 i hope Sunday. The pole was short on the red ski & I felt that pain in my back so I didn't ride it much. I need some more time, but will know for sure by Monday which way to go....

We will be out there this year, me & lucas both said last night if we got new freaks ready by March 1st its a done deal.... Other wise surf slam, or something.
 
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Great to read an experts view I just posted up a load of stuff on the uk forum about what I rode while over there . I said corys was my favourite hull! I felt at home on that thing straight away . I had plans of getting my hands on a rickter but after riding this it really made me think ( cory if your reading this first dibs lol) I'm not quite in the same league as Ross ! but I think that says a lot for this hull aswell . I disagree on the footholds I thought everything was bigger in the USA ,the super freaks were the only footholds I could get locked into all week ! Every other ski I rode the holds were tiny . I found these hulls really easy to roll . I have only just started flipping and it still scares me but I can honestly say I wanted to flip this ski but the fact it was pretty shallow and it's not my ski stopped me . Put chasingdaylight's engine in there and that thing would be unreal
 
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Aircraftsalz

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must be nice to be ballers! :p i want to feel the red hull with a 1100 in it. tem sure thinks that could be the all around boat.

Anything over 850cc is to much to enjoy in a surf ski for every day riding.... I loved having a XS1000 in my FS1 surf ski, but its way to much... You can have that 1100, but it will hurt your riding imo....

I'm gonna run a BB stock stroke in my Surf Freak
 
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