Custom/Hybrid The "Have you seen my pole?" Backie Chan build

[hink320]

I don't know how Trendsetterz aligns their midshaft to pump, but on my footrocket they use a jig to align the midshaft to the pump. This advice is a quote from my pump shoe thread where I was looking for this exact same info:

"bolt the mid-shaft in and prep pump shoe and surface of hull apply a generous amount glue on pump shoe then install and squeegee pump entrance and wipe off excess glue install pump with drive shaft into mid-shaft with no pump rubber seal ring check pump is square with pump shoe and let dry.Do not screw pump shoe down. Nick Barton Quote "the threaded area of pump and midshaft are jigged and correct" the hull surface may not be."

It was my first time and it seemed daunting at first but it was actually pretty straight forward after I wrapped my head around it, the worst part of it was grinding the 144 shoe out to 148. I have never used 5200 so I don't know the consistency of it, but I used G-flex epoxy thickened to a peanut butter like paste, slathered it all over the prepped area on the hull, put the shoe in place, slid the pump in and bolted it in with no seal and then just made sure that the shoe was perfectly square with the pump once it was aligned perfectly. The thick paste I used filled any kind of void there may have been between the shoe and hull and I ended up with a perfect seal and I have no cavitation.

 

[TontoM3]

just reading that makes a lot a more sense, and I have never replaced my pump shoe.

 

[Philip Clemmons]

You have to Align shaft first, then install shoe. Pump alignment can be off and it will still easily bolt up to the intermediate housing. You must also verify the bulkhead and shaft are 90 degrees relative to one another. It's common for the bulkheads to be off a bit on a/m hulls. Our last chan was off a bit and took some shimming.

I typically center and align the pump perfectly, then install the shoe.

 

[hornedogg79]

Every intake grate coming out of Jet dynamics fits like crap, they just don't seem to care, there pump shoe also fits horribly

X2.. the JD #60+2 grate I just bought required lots of grinding to fit in my chan correctly. It was crooked right out of the box too. I had to put it in a vice and bend it just so it would fit in the recessed area. And the front mounting holes were offset to one side by 1/4". Works great now but I will definitely go a different route next time.

 

[N-D-Red]

Hornedogg what do recommend for a Chan after your experience with the JD?

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[Philip Clemmons]

Hornedogg what do recommend for a Chan after your experience with the JD?

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We used an R&D and stretched it 2". Fit perfect.

 

[hornedogg79]

I'm not sure who else makes a +2 intake. I stretched a worx201 at first but just wanted to try something different.

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[hink320]

You have to Align shaft first, then install shoe. Pump alignment can be off and it will still easily bolt up to the intermediate housing. You must also verify the bulkhead and shaft are 90 degrees relative to one another. It's common for the bulkheads to be off a bit on a/m hulls. Our last chan was off a bit and took some shimming.

I typically center and align the pump perfectly, then install the shoe.

Sorry I left out the part about the shaft. When I said 'pump' I was assuming the pump was fully assembled with shaft installed and that was being centered.

 

[baxt3r]

Looks like I had the Moron Meter pegged last night. Figured out the problem. Unfortunately it is going to be too cold to put the shoe in tonight. 12 degrees outside and no heater for the garage.

Next question is.....how much 5200 should I put on the shoe? I've seen all sorts of eyeball amounts. From generous to slather it on.

Sorry for all the idiot questions. I'm a visual learner and reading doesn't help me a whole lot, especially when there are so many conflicting thoughts on the topic. Yay ,internet.

 

[N-D-Red]

No idiot questions......plenty of guys like me that are learning as you go. Keep it up!!

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[Droste14]

If I had to guess. I'd say put a ton on and wipe off the excess to get a good seal

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[DAG]

Baxter, You want it squirting out all sides when you set it. and just wipe the excess before it cures. I'm curious what the "problem" was since i'll be going down this path soon also

 

[baxt3r]

Ashby, call it operator error. And it may not even be what I thought it was.

 

[DAG]

to many beers? or is that even possible?

 

[baxt3r]

Definitely not too many beers. Just a moment of inattention that resulted in about 30 minutes of cussing and cleaning.

 

[naticen]

Baxter, You want it squirting out all sides. I'm curious what the "problem" was since i'll be going down also

Did I paraphrase that correctly?

 

[baxt3r]

Did I paraphrase that correctly?

You dirty, dirty man. lol

 

[DAG]

Did I paraphrase that correctly?

you bastard!

 

[fastgtfairlane]

i dont know if i would use 5200 to seal the shoe only because it takes sooo long to cure especially with it being soo cold.. get some epoxy in a caulk tube from west marine.. it will be easier to work with, you live close to west marine, and it dries much quicker in lower temps than 5200.. when you did the foot holds in your round nose, that 5200 took several days to dry... toooo long and too much could go wrong in that time where dont want it on your pump shoe... i used some "24hr" 5200 to seal up my 2nd cooling line and even it took almost 3 days to cure..

 

[Philip Clemmons]

G flex epoxy works well and is available at West. Thicken with Cabosil or 404 and you're good to go.