the negative feedback forum - what to do with it?

[guiness92]

I voted number 1 but number 2 would work well also. The only problem with number 2 is, alot of times there are other people that are somewhat involved with pertinent information to the thread. Take the latest thread in question for example. Someone came out and said, hey I had work done by this person and I am very unhappy with it. Well, other people had the same problem and jumped in and said the same thing with pics and all. Thats why I voted to leave it as is. Some people will think its a hitler syndrome going on, but the mods here do an excelent job at weeding out the crap in the neg forum.

 

[OCD Solutions]

let the member that has the issue + the member that is in question post as many times as it takes to state there side's of the issue.

only let other un-related member's post 1 time on that thread.
that way it does not turn into a drama-slug fest thread.

get wet
gorilla

I like this idea. It keep things mostly between the involved parties. Others have one time to mention their issue, invite to PM, or link to their previous neg thread if it applies or is relevant to the current problem. Keep it simple and on topic and hopefully find a resolution faster.

Personally I wish for a feedback rating like ebay, but in regards to knowledge as well as selling tactics. It would be nice to know who is a reputable advisor sometimes as much if not more than who to buy from.

 

[SuperJETT]

itrader is the mod for vbulletin that most sites used, however there is some drama going on with vbulletin and the coder for itrader, etc etc. Really strange goings-on in that world.

I'm not sure I want to install it now based on what I read about it this morning. I'll look for an alternative.

 

[QuickMick]

leave it as-is, moderated by admins/supermods (myself, Kahuna, Matt_E, Penguin, QuickMick)
leave it moderated, but only allow the involved parties to post/reply
open it up, un-moderated like all other forums
remove it entirely
something else?

#2 leave it moderated, but only allow the involved parties to post/reply

#2 Is the best choice.
Some people that jump in a Neg feedback thread that shouldn't, have their post approved and some dont.
I never understood how or why that is possiable. Someone jumping in to say "Hey he is a good guy even if he makes a ty product" has no relevance to the subject.

Oh I did fix option #1 incase it passes.

 

[Rickster]

I'd vote for option 2, but allow anything either party wants to post to be posted. IF something needs consequences, handle it after it's posted. It should be up to them as to whether or not they want to dig their own grave. Hell, like in my case, it allowed the person to show their true colors when so many thought they were a saint.

And I think the feedback forum is very important. When selling/ buying to/from someone, the first thing I do is check the forum for dirt.

I agree with Kennay, leave the negative feedback module un-moderated, but only allow posts between the two parties involved.

Rick

 

[Big Kahuna]

I agree with Kennay, leave the negative feedback module un-moderated, but only allow posts between the two parties involved.

Rick

How exactly are you gonna do that. If it is unmoderated then everybody can post in it. Sure, we can make a rule saying "Only the two parties can post" but guess what, what is to stop Charlie from posting in it or Shonuff from posting?

you cannot have one without the other.

 

[Rickster]

I voted number 1 but number 2 would work well also. The only problem with number 2 is, alot of times there are other people that are somewhat involved with pertinent information to the thread. Take the latest thread in question for example. Someone came out and said, hey I had work done by this person and I am very unhappy with it. Well, other people had the same problem and jumped in and said the same thing with pics and all. Thats why I voted to leave it as is. Some people will think its a hitler syndrome going on, but the mods here do an excelent job at weeding out the crap in the neg forum.

Each individual person should leave his own negative feedback based on their own experience.

 

[Rickster]

How exactly are you gonna do that. If it is unmoderated then everybody can post in it. Sure, we can make a rule saying "Only the two parties can post" but guess what, what is to stop Charlie from posting in it or Shonuff from posting?

you cannot have one without the other.

Allowing only the two people involved in each transaction to voice their sides of the story 'unedited' and keeping all others out of the thread is not moderation IMO.

As per my post on the other thread, allowing some to post and others to not post is a recipe for disaster and drama will ensue...

Under this scenario, Kennay would have followed up the original post with his own post (referencing the original post) and followed it up with the data that that he had at hand.

If the thread gets out of hand it gets locked 'unedited' once the parties have had their say.

Quite simple I believe...

 

[SuperJETT]

You are misunderstanding.

Moderated means the posts go into a queue and we approve/disapprove. If the forum is un-moderated, then they are live as soon as you post, and anyone/everyone can post.

If it were un-moderated but only the thread starter and the feedback-ee were supposed to post, we would be deleting posts all day long. People don't read the rules/guidelines in different forums already, they post in the wrong forums, they hit 'report this post' instead of 'reply', you'd be amazed at how many little things are messed up on a daily basis. Heck, we have people hit 'report this post' on their visitor messages, I used to have people reply to an e-mail notification because the e-mail had the post body in it---that's why I removed the messages from the notification e-mails.

In a perfect world, yeah that might work, but in the real world, the forum would have to 'moderated' and I'm sure someone eventually would bitch about something we did wrong.

Allowing only the two people involved in each transaction to voice their sides of the story 'unedited' and keeping all others out of the thread is not moderation IMO.

As per my post on the other thread, allowing some to post and others to not post is a recipe for disaster and drama will ensue...

Under this scenario, Kennay would have followed up the original post with his own post (referencing the original post) and followed it up with the data that that he had at hand.

If the thread gets out of hand it gets locked 'unedited' once the parties have had their say.

Quite simple I believe...

 

[orangefinger]

I have payed over $ 500 here for parts and got ripped by well known members and they have eliminated themselves, and I think you should voice your opinion besides getting negative poll ---- , but people who jump on the threads with commenst like " dude that sucks " or " he should give you your money back " dont we know that already ??

If you will be getting involved in a transaction and you can see the person has negative ----, then go to " feedbacks left " section read up on all the negative comments left why buy any further parts or deal with any further transcations ???

Why waste time and post over and over the same BS ?? I am sorry I just think it is common sense....

>>> GREAT APPROACH >>> I agree with Kennay, leave the negative feedback module un-moderated, but only allow posts between the two parties involved

 

[Big Kahuna]

I have payed over $ 500 here for parts and got ripped by well known members and they have eliminated themselves, and I think you should voice your opinion besides getting negative poll ---- , but people who jump on the threads with commenst like " dude that sucks " or " he should give you your money back " dont we know that already ??

If you will be getting involved in a transaction and you can see the person has negative ----, then go to " feedbacks left " section read up on all the negative comments left why buy any further parts or deal with any further transcations ???

Why waste time and post over and over the same BS ?? I am sorry I just think it is common sense....

>>> GREAT APPROACH >>> I agree with Kennay, leave the negative feedback module un-moderated, but only allow posts between the two parties involved

Please scroll up 2-3 post to SuperJETT's post and mine above that. You cannot have both. The only way to allow post is to moderate the post as they come in. None are seen until we approve them. That is moderation. There is no way the software can read what is being posted by whom and towards whom and say "Hey, only these two people can post here".

"Be respectful and factual in this forum. No bashfests or slander will be tolerated. This forum is MODERATED, all posts/threads have to be approved before they show." <---- this is straight from the main page where you click "Negative Feedback"

 

[orangefinger]

Can it be locked after inital feedback ?

mmh that would not be good then the other person cant defend , unless....

 

[Rickster]

If it were un-moderated but only the thread starter and the feedback-ee were supposed to post, we would be deleting posts all day long. People don't read the rules/guidelines in different forums already, they post in the wrong forums, they hit 'report this post' instead of 'reply', you'd be amazed at how many little things are messed up on a daily basis. Heck, we have people hit 'report this post' on their visitor messages, I used to have people reply to an e-mail notification because the e-mail had the post body in it---that's why I removed the messages from the notification e-mails.

You are already doing this by having to approving/disapprove every post that in the feedback system.

How is deleting all posts other than the two involved any different?

Currently, the drama comes from some posts being approved and others not being approved, which opens the door to people screaming favoritism.

 

[WaveDemon]

unmoderate it and lock it down if it gets out of control. kinda like every other forum.

 

[Scorn800]

unmoderate it and lock it down if it gets out of control. kinda like every other forum.

I agree

 

[The Penguin]

that's they way it used to be - and it didn't work that way.

 

[Big Kahuna]

that's they way it used to be - and it didn't work that way.

and everybody bitched when it got locked.

wait, they still do......

You know the saying "you cannot please everybody" I would settle for just pleasing one person!!!!!!!!!

 

[SuperJETT]

unmoderate it and lock it down if it gets out of control. kinda like every other forum.

It was out of control, that's why it's the way it is now, plus we're a much much larger site now so I'm sure it would get completely out of control.

 

[SuperJETT]

I have a possible solution, do away with all buying/selling here and make people go to pwctoday for it. Good eh?

 

[sflsurfrider]

just like on ebay, only the 2 parties involved can leave feedback for eachother.

so, my choice is either #2, or approve only my posts in them. :wavey: