- Location
- Central Florida
each ski rides as good as the person riding it. if you gots good skills then you prob be happy on whatever, if you want to buy skills better try em all
Surfriding The ultimate all around surf hull......and why...
- Thread starter masterblaster
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masterblaster
X-H2
When I was in st martin last yr,The one he had almost complete was looking really nice,He was telling me it was going to you up there.You will be impressed when you see it,Fabs builds are so meticulous,attention to detail isnt even the word. Bro you gotta get one of those down to wavedaze,There are quite a few canooks coming down.great place to demo product.
I agree with wydopen to certain degree,alot of these a/m hulls need at a nose rail,while they dont pearl anywhere near as bad as a sj with or without a brokin nose rail,they all have diff degrees of extra salt spray in your face,thats one of my favs about the -2surffreak,its pretty dry ride. Maybe some more balance can be had with it,how much of the rear bondrail would have to be shaved to get it to carve a little better,can most of the front bond rail remain wide and still keep a lil of its extra stability.....just somewhere more in the middle?
The vision we have in our group posted above is full length,has some slop in the steering nozzle from worn out trim, A Ridiculously short pole,Josh is a trip,major complacent and gets use to the worst atrocities on a ski you could imagine,and still manages to ride pretty well..Junkies finally talked him into ordering longer rrp poles. Now that the pole is longer,the hull needs the same extended steering cable the fr2 needs to run the pole long enough to be a surf setup. Ill hold off on saying much about it for now cause most found it pretty much unrideable when compared to a surffreak with the same prob of horribly short pole,the sf still performs pretty well. I can only imagine how well it will do with a decent pole length setup,that is in the works also. These hulls should come with the longer steering cable installed,imho they are useless without one,and no one seems to know it untill its already built.
Andrew would like the footrocket,he just doesnt know it yet,based on a bs review he got from others. It might be shorter than hes use to,and with his lifevest swelling since jan....hehehe. Id say stanton would need the longest plate he can dig up. But anyone whos ever liked a fx1 would love this footrocket. Ive ridden idoks fx pro at tona and can promise he would enjoy the footrocket a great deal more as well,it turns like a fx but is far more stable somehow and doesnt work the
out of you,bolte was leg draggin the thing at wf,its a super capable ski,If i had more time on one,i could see buying one,that said,if it were a lil longer and had a lil more rail,I just dont need THAT carvy a hull,im looking for something in the middle..It REALLY needs a splash guard as well or better yet a full glassed nose rail
raytherace
Canadian Brapp Dealer
- Location
- St-Ray Beach, QC
I was in St-Martin me too last year during X-mas. I was there to test/ride his Gravity and then go-foward with the distribution. I exactly know what kind of work Fab is able to and its why I decide to go with him in that project. In fews week I will be in Brazil for probably 2-3 months to help him with the production and I will be back for the Daytona Freeride to demo the new hull and of course I will be at wavedaze !! I have to say that the plug you saw last year will be completely different, new foothold, new nose and a couple of extra who will be reveal when the first hull come out the mold. Stay tune !
masterblaster
X-H2
Good to hear bro,See you at tona this yr,Ill deff be looking to demo the new model,hoping to see a bond rail on the nose.Havnt talked with Fab or kris in a while,they making it to tona to demo the xs grav? The spring wavedaze this yr will be another good time im sure. We have the fall event coming up next weekend also here...
raytherace
Canadian Brapp Dealer
- Location
- St-Ray Beach, QC
Fab is not 100% sure yet for Daytona 2013. He work with some russian and he told me that he is suppose to be in Seychelle during that time, but he doesn't know the date for now.
227
Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
Agreed 1000% What advantages does not having a nose bond rail offer to a Surf ski???? Sure I get the theory behind it on a flat water circus boat but a builder whose not incorperating a nose bond rail on there surf hull is just another sheep following the Rick Roy trend. BTW even Rickters have a nose bond rail that can be added for surf skis.
My 2 cents on this, a RN style lip has a tendency to fold down when you hit bottom, breaking the front of the ski.
I did my B1 rocker without a lip, and Ive plowed the sand quite a few times with out any breakage, granted I get a little more face spray.
On my next build, I may include a small lip, but it will only be big enough to knock down a little of the face spray...
KTM434
Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
X2
... But I may add a lip to my Rockered B1 still instead of waiting for my next build. I also want some tubbies to make it the ultimate surf thrasher.
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masterblaster
X-H2
huh a b1 with tubbies,that would be a diff idea.. The Allaround hull has a bump out built into the nose about half way up the rockered part,it is suppose to be a spray deflector,wonder how well it works...
Deff alot of Rick roy look alikes out there with no front bond rail,for surf it really doesnt make sense at all,you can always reinforce the nose bond rail heavy and keep it from crackin down,and keep the spray outa your face
Deff alot of Rick roy look alikes out there with no front bond rail,for surf it really doesnt make sense at all,you can always reinforce the nose bond rail heavy and keep it from crackin down,and keep the spray outa your face
Idok
F1pro
- Location
- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
T...the answer is simple
Rickter. Fr1/2 or EVO...whatever you like better
the rickter is the modern day superjet
(not the XFS/XFR..while the flips and tricks are rediculous, the "riding" looks like dogass in the surf with that model)
Rickter. Fr1/2 or EVO...whatever you like better
the rickter is the modern day superjet
(not the XFS/XFR..while the flips and tricks are rediculous, the "riding" looks like dogass in the surf with that model)
227
Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
Agreed! If price wasn't a factor there would be a Rickter (or two) in my garage, with the nose bond line addition of course
KR
www.krlines.com
- Location
- San Diego, California
FP1, www.fpjetskis.com
masterblaster
X-H2
Scott....Ive ridden all 3 rickters you mentioned as well as the xfs,While I thought the fr2 was better than the 1 or evo by a good bit,it wasnt nearly as nice as 2 other brands in the list in performance terms. What I like about the rickers is they come rtr, nice fit and finish,painted,turfed.I dont have a lot of time or patience for that,especially for a demo ski,But build quality and durability are no where near as good as some others out there. But some other brands that are more durable leave alot to be desired in fit and finish ...After grinding,shimming 8 ways from Sunday,sanding and smoothing,painting and turfing one of these models you wonder is the effort was worth it...
Im sure there is something out there that fits both bills,performance and build quality and realistic pricing...the jb1,allaround,xs gravity,fp1 all seem like good contenders I have not tried.
I think this thread will help people decide long term,I know there are ALOT of guys looking for precisely what im talking about here,if one comes to the forefront it will sell like hotcakes.
227 is correct for now,its hard to find something 6k better than a sj,and I already have 2 of them to beat on in the surf
Im sure there is something out there that fits both bills,performance and build quality and realistic pricing...the jb1,allaround,xs gravity,fp1 all seem like good contenders I have not tried.
I think this thread will help people decide long term,I know there are ALOT of guys looking for precisely what im talking about here,if one comes to the forefront it will sell like hotcakes.
227 is correct for now,its hard to find something 6k better than a sj,and I already have 2 of them to beat on in the surf
Idok
F1pro
- Location
- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
oxnard111
Creative RE Purchasing
- Location
- so Cali, Ventura/Oxnard area
How much was that nose piece? And how did it hold up? And it only bolts onto the bond rail, or also through the nose? I want one for my Rickter.
masterblaster
X-H2
Man please.....lol Youll have a rough time convincing me you miss that thing...I remember the ski stand ornament when you were riding the fxpro....
stanton
High on jetskis.
- Location
- atascadero,ca
be sure to try it at pismo!
stanton
High on jetskis.
- Location
- atascadero,ca
bondlines are not for bonding anymore, they are a riding surface. having something like a duckbill out front makes no sense to me, especially on a nose with heaps of rocker. splash reducers are integrated under the nose so the length on the nose can be reduced as short as possible, for me that translates to better maneuverability and better handling.
if i had the option, id say no nose rail for sure. its not copying rrp haha you guys
if i had the option, id say no nose rail for sure. its not copying rrp haha you guys
masterblaster
X-H2
I disagree there,For surf you need a nose rail,unless there is something out there that works better than anything ive tried,the surf freak is the best example I can think of,the nose is rockered and the nose rail is short,it almost never contacts the water except on the steepest of angles when its hollow,it blocks alot of the spray though
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