Tis' the season for knock offs (observation/rant)

[Matt_E]

Judging from the yellow hull, I believe it's Crammit442.

 

[QuickMick]

There should be a Knockoff Royalty fee. :Banane36:

 

[McDog]

Copying others for your own use is OK in my book. Good for you that you can build it yourself. Copying others and trying to sell it is when it becomes wrong.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Copying others for your own use is OK in my book. Good for you that you can build it yourself. Copying others and trying to sell it is when it becomes wrong.

When I looked at building the Japanese style footholds for the X2,I could have easily ordered a set form Japan,splashed that design and started making them.Problem is I don't work that way,so instead I did it the right way,I built the plugs ,then the molds and soon I will build the footholds and maybe sell a few sets in the process,if that works out I will rework the plugs to fit the Blaster and maybe sell a few more sets.It is indeed a lot of work for a product that may or may not sell here but its the right way to go about it,thats counts for something.

 

[steve-uk]

I wonder if someone could knock off one of these.

I may try and make a splash of these and offer to sell them if customers show enough interest in them...

These are a new design that will revolutionize ride plate technology. The first of its kind disposable ride plates.

wow that ride plate looks like it was made by a true innovator of the sport...

 

[snowxr]

You mean a flexible ride plate isn't innovative?? Back to the drawing boards...

 

[crammit442]

There should be a Knockoff Royalty fee. :Banane36:

Originally Posted by QuickMick
I have even seen pictures of knock offs of my jet works battery mod, posted here on the X. On the his ski uvcoarse.

What you make and sell is actually a copy of the original part I started making back in late 2005. "Your" part(knockoff) is made of brass rather than stainless, which is likelier to encourage galvanic corrosion. The biggest weakness of the part you make is the likelihood that the original terminal will be twisted when tightening the cable. The way mine are designed, the terminal block is a tight fit between the original terminal and two planes of the battery case so that it's almost impossible to twist the terminal on it's weak axis. I've never offered mine for sale(not really profitable when made well)so I'm not really crying foul. I just think it's ironic that this thread was started by a guy selling gaskets out of his house with no overhead so he's able to cut the throats of legitimate PWC dealers that have real operating costs and then the thread is kept alive by someone complaining about knockoffs of his cheap knockoffs of the part I designed.:haha:

 

[WFO Speedracer]

What you make and sell is actually a copy of the original part I started making back in late 2005. "Your" part(knockoff) is made of brass rather than stainless, which is likelier to encourage galvanic corrosion. The biggest weakness of the part you make is the likelihood that the original terminal will be twisted when tightening the cable. The way mine are designed, the terminal block is a tight fit between the original terminal and two planes of the battery case so that it's almost impossible to twist the terminal on it's weak axis. I've never offered mine for sale(not really profitable when made well)so I'm not really crying foul. I just think it's ironic that this thread was started by a guy selling gaskets out of his house with no overhead so he's able to cut the throats of legitimate PWC dealers that have real operating costs and then the thread is kept alive by someone complaining about knockoffs of his cheap knockoffs of the part I designed.:haha:

Only on the X folks

 

[GIL]

There should be a Knockoff Royalty fee. :Banane36:

Let me see if I got this right,

You make a cheap immitation of crammit's parts and he owes you a royalty fee? Just making sure I understand the game correctly. :scratchchin:

 

[snowxr]

How do you make a knock off of a part that was never on the market in the first place?

 

[WFO Speedracer]

How do you make a knock off of a part that was never on the market in the first place?

With brass stock ,a drill and a tap duh huh!

 

[QuickMick]

What you make and sell is actually a copy of the original part I started making back in late 2005. "Your" part(knockoff) is made of brass rather than stainless, which is likelier to encourage galvanic corrosion. The biggest weakness of the part you make is the likelihood that the original terminal will be twisted when tightening the cable. The way mine are designed, the terminal block is a tight fit between the original terminal and two planes of the battery case so that it's almost impossible to twist the terminal on it's weak axis. I've never offered mine for sale(not really profitable when made well)so I'm not really crying foul. I just think it's ironic that this thread was started by a guy selling gaskets out of his house with no overhead so he's able to cut the throats of legitimate PWC dealers that have real operating costs and then the thread is kept alive by someone complaining about knockoffs of his cheap knockoffs of the part I designed.:haha:

Sorry pal, I made my first set in 2002 for my GPR when I started racing. SO YOU did copy mine. :cheer: Ive made them well before I started selling them on the X.

Mine are simple, easy to maintain. Thats what I was going for.

 

[QuickMick]

Let me see if I got this right,

You make a cheap immitation of crammit's parts and he owes you a royalty fee? Just making sure I understand the game correctly. :scratchchin:

Umm NO. I made them before him. Along with my remote needle adjusters and battery relocator bracket for the GPR when the GPR was the z.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

:haha:

I guess it did go "overhead" LOL :silly:

i started this thread way before I ever started selling any gaskets,etc. It just seemed appropriate to bump lately and I figured it would get a rise again since its winter time. :stooges:

 

[QuickMick]

:haha:

I guess it did go "overhead" LOL :silly:

i started this thread way before I ever started selling any gaskets,etc. It just seemed appropriate to bump lately and I figured it would get a rise again since its winter time. :stooges:

Naww, dont worry about it. I will still order my gaskets from you, just like I did last week!

 

[GIL]

Umm NO. I made them before him. Along with my remote needle adjusters and battery relocator bracket for the GPR when the GPR was the z.

OK, I will send crammit some royalty money cuz I copied him and then he will send u some royalty money cuz I hear jello is going up after the 1st of the year.:haha:

 

[WILKEY]

lol u ladies crack me up

 

[WFO Speedracer]

I changed the design to Bronze so I am at least 10% different,I only owe him for use of his intellectual property now.

 

[sflsurfrider]

Yes, but the distortion of the top decks is huge on the SN, even more so than on the RN's...

That hood was customized for the original user's boat, so you will have to modify it to fit your boat. Custom is Custom, you will usually have to make small modifications to make it fit.

this makes no sense. with this reasoning, yamaha would have to match stock hoods to the decks at the factory. "this one doesnt fit, so try it on that hull and lets try another hood."

either that, or the hood 'distorts' with the top deck over time. i dont see that happening either.

ive never seen an oem hood NOT fit an oem ski perfectly.

aftermarket hoods? absolutely!

 

[SUPERJET-113]

I know over time that front edge on the hull where the hood sits starts to sag/bow on the SN. Thats just the crappy metton IMO.