So which model are you running?
I'm having a bit of a hard time with a $2k battery, but maybe you're running a cheaper one.
Other total loss Battery
- Thread starter pioui1
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So which model are you running?
I'm having a bit of a hard time with a $2k battery, but maybe you're running a cheaper one.
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Jamie FN Hickey
- Location
- Palm Coast FL
If the $2k battery was made of billet aluminum and had powervalves everybody would swear it was the only way to go!
ProSouth
Seriously, Don't be a dick.
- Location
- kawasakis suck
$2k battery= FW backies
Braille Greenlite G4. I was the first to use it in a jetski & gave them a recommendation to warrant a watertight sealing system.. Months later they came out with an updated version with a 'fully waterproof' sticker on them.
The G4 is around $300 I believe, absolutely no point running the $1000+ ones, although I know a few mates do and have never had a problem in the last couple years.
*I LOL'd at the novice on the first page cursing that he couldn't get more than 3 days riding with TL out of his lithium before it shat itself!
I've got an easy 6-7 tanks from the G4 in the past but I sometimes slap the charger on it to top it up to avoid minimum discharge voltages. "Maintenance"
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Philip Clemmons
Owner, P&P Performance
- Location
- Richmond, Va
I'm not sure what to say here.........I don't know you and don't understand your motivations here.
Since you want to play the "look at post x" game, I'll play. How about you look at post #1-"what battery is the best to use in a total loss system?". Yes, I suggested an Antigravity for total loss.....that was what the OP asked in both the title and post 1. Nowhere did he mention anything about warranty.
Im not sure what your issue is but maybe you should think before you make foolish comments towards others. I directly answered the original question. You are making issues out of things that were not asked and in a thread that is not yours.
Matt, I didn't mention the dealer thing, but thanks for your support.
I like high quality options. Are you using yours with a charging system or TL?
I don't quite spend 30 minutes after each ride on the ski, but I do always charge the battery with a balancing charger.
Philip Clemmons
Owner, P&P Performance
- Location
- Richmond, Va
These batteries are not Lipos!!!!! They are built using A123 Systems cells. They are Lithium Nanophosphate cells, a patented variation of LiFePo4 technology. These cells have been in use for years in RC applications on $10K aircraft b/c of their durability, dependability, high charge rate, and high energy density. They are used in hybrids, cell sites, amd many other industrial applications. They are much more stable and safer than Lipos in every way, with a very high energy density and slightly higher (than Lipos) weight. Compared to our lead acid technology, they are still feather weights. The challenge has been how to enclose them and keep them waterproof for our applications. Several manufacturers have made attempts at it in recent months. So far, the Antigravitys seem to have it figured out.
The only downside is the special charger required and the initial cost.
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ATP Flame in the beginning, MSD TL now. You should always use a balance charger when required- ie. Shorai w/balance port, but many more lithiums these days have the circuitry built in above the cells to split the currents and balance individually. This is why waterproofing is important. Even though some claim to be waterproof, you should always try to improve this- I tape up the seams of mine as backup- moisture or condensation is the killer to this circuitry if it aint watertight.
If you know your
, read the specs on the types of cells- max charge rate, discharge, amperage etc (I will not take responsible for negligence) you don't 'have to' buy the manufacturers chargers- I see them as an easy profit for themselves- Buy a hobby lithium charger and program in the charging rates within specification.http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7523__Turnigy_Accucel_8_150W_7A_Balancer_Charger.html
^^This has lasted me over 5 years so far.. no joke!
I have done much research in the past- used to be into alot of big R/C stuff in the past also, and I agree to this completely..
Although I, personally would be using my hobby charger on it^^
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Philip Clemmons
Owner, P&P Performance
- Location
- Richmond, Va
A hobby type lithium charger is what I was referring to. Most don't want to invest in a battery plus a lithium type charger. Some of the battery companies advocating normal charger use on lithiums does not help the situation. People skimp on the charger based on this incorrect info, have issues, and blame the battery. It's like running gear oil in your car and wanting to know why you had an engine failure
. I use a high quality lithium charger that is not much more expensive than the Turnigy, and in some cases, cheaper than what the battery companies offer, but of much better quality.
Another issue is most don't understand series/parallel configurations, and are unsure of how to calculate proper charge rates, and thus size the charger/power supply appropriately.
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With the higher costs of the new battery options and different needs for charging and maintaining maybe someone could consolidate the CORRECT info and make a sticky thread out of it. I've always used a deka or Jetworks but have held off using any of these lightweight batts simply due to the poor reliability scores that everyone had posted. It would be welcome info.
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
Greg, I agreee 110%.
I'm setting up a PFP now and have no room for a battery, looking at smaller battery options, and after reading all the crap about these 'new' batterries I am scared to death to try one. If people that ARE having success with battery ABC brand name and model would post up, make a sticky, it would really help!
Joker
...chaos? Its Fair!
- Location
- La Porte, Indiana
Make a thread with a poll and allow multiple votes so someone could pick all the ones they had success with.
I think it becomes apparent as to who knows what they are talking about and those who have an experience without any real knowledge or understanding of an issue. There is a commonality between dcptr and Phil, they both are/were into R/C applications where batteries were used to a high level. Both run such batteries now and because of their knowledge and experience they are able to run these new battery types and make technical judgments. I won't take advice from someone who can't explain the difference between parallel and serial in voltage or amperage. I know Phil, he knows these batteries and has used them for awhile now in R/C's and his awesome Dasa 1100 w/TL. I am learning in this area too and I have an electronic background. Its the same as those who run T/L in salt water and don't have issues vs. those who do. What's the difference? Just look at how they build and maintain their systems. Some don't get it and never will but some do. Ask the questions-- what worked, why? What failed, and why? Seen too many ignitions failures blamed on "it just died" only to learn the guy wired it backwards one time," but that's not why it died" or the connections are so poor and corroded, yet they don't understand how "dirty" connections raise the resistance and how that effects the system. I'm not saying anything here to slam anyone, I'm just suggesting that you read and see if you can pick out who knows the subject matter and answers with technical, and not attitude. P.S I too have OCD issues.
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- Location
- South Florida
I have one of these but never used it. Planned on getting a brushless lipo car then didnt. Would it work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iMAX-B6-AC-...racter_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item23255c89ec
Can charge Li-ion / LiPo / LiFe 1-6 cells, and Ni-Cd / NiMH 1 -15 cells
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iMAX-B6-AC-...racter_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item23255c89ec
Can charge Li-ion / LiPo / LiFe 1-6 cells, and Ni-Cd / NiMH 1 -15 cells
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if it will work thats half price.
http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=..._medium=cse&rct=j&q=ballistic+battery+charger
http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=..._medium=cse&rct=j&q=ballistic+battery+charger
- Location
- South Florida
It says LiFe but not LiFepo. I am completely uneducated on the matter.
THRUST
ThrustInnovations.com
- Location
- royal palm beach florida
they have warrentied some of ours but the reason is like said in previous post everyone is too lazy to charge their batteries or want to see how long they will last without charging .
this is the worst thing that can happen is undercharge them or over charge them .
when dealt with properly we have had no issues with anti gravity ,this means using there charger (only$50 ) not ballistic or standard charger and you will have a 2-3lb battery that will work really well , if money is issue then go to the deka etx 14 , if lipo is the issue then go to yuasa ytz10 6lbs 300+cca and a quality battery .
this is the worst thing that can happen is undercharge them or over charge them .
when dealt with properly we have had no issues with anti gravity ,this means using there charger (only$50 ) not ballistic or standard charger and you will have a 2-3lb battery that will work really well , if money is issue then go to the deka etx 14 , if lipo is the issue then go to yuasa ytz10 6lbs 300+cca and a quality battery .
chadman154
#Itsonlymoney !!!!!
- Location
- Dirty south
I bought this one, the one i got does not have all the same leads as ballistic and is programed different. Took about 15 min to move some settings. Im an idiot