TPE-964 Engine?

[DAG]

in that scenario you are checking the same motor using 2 different gauges. And you're correct, suspect is a bad gauge. It differs from what I said completely.

 

[Big Kahuna]

in that scenario you are checking the same motor using 2 different gauges. And you're correct, suspect is a bad gauge. It differs from what I said completely.

But I have no clue what you were trying to say. Made no sense

 

[wanderer1]

I bought the first +4mm (1021cc) version of this motor and I was so impressed with it that I had Erik build me a second 1021cc for another build less than three months later. You would have a very difficult time trying to convince me that there is a better motor option out there at this level of performance and price point. My next build will also be powered by TPE.

For a comparison how much was it since you brought it up?

 

[kevbo]

But I have no clue what you were trying to say. Made no sense

I bet engine builders stop publishing compression # or at least lower them by a lot. People obsess way too much over something that can vary greatly and still be fine. Use a gauge to find damage by comparing cylinders since they never fail at the same time. If your gauge reads lower than expected, replace the schrader valve first, that is often worth 10-20psi.

 

[WB1994]

its not that nicasil vs steel is the thing in quetsion. and fyi i have all my cyliner sleeves nicasil coated. it is amazing t go through 4 sets of rings and never had to re bore the engine just a light home and go. the issue with cast is not the shape. it can be the inconsistency. if its thicker in one spot or if there is an air pocket it can create hot and cold spots. again not that these particular motors arent performing amazing especially for the money. it is more so that there is more potential for inconsistency. billet is a more precise figure and calculation. it will always be the same. motor to motor. you can still get a poorly assembled engine from anyone.

i guess for me it comes down to this. 750sx or square nose hulls can be 25 years old at this point and still be on the water just getting the poop beat out of them. how many bob gen 1's are still around. they were cheap they did exactly what they were supposed to and i feel helped open up the aftermarket hull world to more common people. but due to weight and build and inconsistencies in manufacturing they didn't last the test of time.

please don't take this as bashing eric. TPE has made an amazing leap and will for teams like scream and dasa to be competative. but i hope that the evolution of the TPE motor is a progressive line and that some of the inherent issues which i do feel like a lot of are trying to be hidden due to it being a very hard market to break into need to be expose so they can be worked through. there is no unicorn engine. there is a down side to every trade off. maybe this one has been hidden. aybe people don't know what to expect yet, maybe it is a time thing. we will see.

Before the billet bling craze every cylinder made was cast and those racers back then beat them up far worse than these backflippers.

 

[Big Kahuna]

If your molds are done correctly you are not going to have major inconsistencies. It is only after the molds have been used a few hundred times like some of the old Cast DASA molds use to be. At the end of their live the molds started deteriorating.

 

[xXx Octane xXx]

For a comparison how much was it since you brought it up?

Each short block was ~ $4400 with my crank cases.

 

[wanderer1]

Thanks. Would a fair comparison be the DASA 10mill 1100? Thrust list it at $5500. Add say $400 for new cases to your price of $4400 would make it $4800, so roughly $700 less than a Thrust 10mil DASA. Glad you were happy enough to go with a second one, must be impressive, since the price difference really isn't much.

 

[stefan]

Nuclear6 has dasa 1100 att 5100 USD complete shortblock, my buddy has hees 850 SS dasa and it hits hard.

 

[stefan]

Each short block was ~ $4400 with my crank cases.

Did you pay 4400 USD for the 1021 with your oven cases ???

 

[air blair]

how about tpe-964 or bigger compared to dasa, xscream etc any one tried several engines? i know that its hard to compare these engines because setups are so different but just want to know more about the price tag of tpe.. is it lower than other am engines because its not as good as or just want to provide powerful engine with les $$

i do have modded cases in my engine, there is epoxy ewerywhere intake is way bigger etc but how can i be sure is it enough?

and other thing that make me wonder is why there is so small amount of ride video of this engine=)?

Tpe964ss vs xs1000 10 mil stroker
Same everything bolt on.
Xs1000 hits harder, stronger and lasts longer. No need for prop changes. Nothing.
Sorry to rain on anybodys parade.

 

[tatronation]

guys they have a website that says pricing...

I paid $4200 for my 964. I didnt give them cases or anything. just sent the check.

 

[stefan]

They dont have a price on the 1021 shortblock.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Tpe964ss vs xs1000 10 mil stroker
Same everything bolt on.
Xs1000 hits harder, stronger and lasts longer. No need for prop changes. Nothing.
Sorry to rain on anybodys parade.

Your compairing apples to Pizza. Not even in the same roller skating ring.

Your compairing a 10mil stroker cylinder to a stock stroke big bore. The XS1000 may have hit a hell of alot harder, but how much more did it cost you?

What does prop changes have to do with anything. You had to come up with some kind of pump and prop setup for the XS.

 

[air blair]

Just sayin- i was told when i baught a tpe that it would hit harder, last longer and i would have to prop up. My experiance is between those two comparisons exactly

 

[tatronation]

Tpe964ss vs xs1000 10 mil stroker
Same everything bolt on.
Xs1000 hits harder, stronger and lasts longer. No need for prop changes. Nothing.
Sorry to rain on anybodys parade.

Before it starts raining on our parade In my opinion a more fair comparison would be a 10mil vs a 10 mil. not a stock stroke vs a 10mil like you were saying. plus, the xs1000 is $7700 on the xscream website where the 964 is $4200, hell even the 1105 is $5400.

just my opinion though... seems like any new product now a days just gets torn apart on the x...

 

[Brian_216]

Tpe964ss vs xs1000 10 mil stroker
Same everything bolt on.
Xs1000 hits harder, stronger and lasts longer. No need for prop changes. Nothing.
Sorry to rain on anybodys parade.

And this people is why you should be careful of what you read and BELIEVE on the internets. Getting your info from a reliable, knowledgeable source should be the first step when making a purchasing choice solely on what you read here.

Sorry Jeff, but you aren't even comparing apples to apples here. I'm pretty sure this is like comparing a doctor and a skyscraper.

 

[wanderer1]

Jeez where did all this come from lol. So since its started, 10mil DASA 1100 and 10 mil TPE 1105 are basically same price and both apples right? Glad the ones that are happy with TPE are happy and sucks that guys that got them weren't. Blair, they bought yours back right? Was that considered a refund? And Blair, who told you it would be better than your XS?

 

[XJCrawler]

Setup and choosing the right motor for your needs are key. The TPE964, tpe1105 and dasa 1100 10mm are all great motors and have there place. Apples to apples no SS motor will compare to a 10mm stroker.

A lot of guys want a big motor with enough power to flip on pump gas with out having to buy all the expensive bolt on's. This is were the 964 is a great choice!

The dasa 10mm 1100 and the TPE 1105 both make huge power when setup up properly.

 

[DAG]

you kidding? even the 964 makes huge power setup correctly.. I couldn't even hang onto Dan or Paul's boat. Probably because my boner pushed me off