CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
wow thats in interesting looking ski. would love to see a vid of it in action.
A lot of guys ask this question, heres my opinion. It is possible but not a good decision. Its never good to leave any type of composite(fiberglass,carbon,kevlar) exposed to U.V. Now there will be someone with no real knowledge say otherwise. I've been told by chemists and high end painters alike who have been there done and seen the long term results. First, people think that a u.v. stable clear or laminating resin is fine. It is u.v. stable not u.v. proof. Sooner or later it breaks down, as the clear is breaking down the laminating resin of choice to build the product is being affected as well. When the clear can be fixed the resin turns brittle in the exposed laminate. The resin gets brittle to the point that a chunk will turn to a chunky powder in your fingers with pressure. There is the start of problems beyond the surface at this point. Which can cause the part to become brittle and break prematurely. I have seen this happen outside of skis. One painter/artist I trust told me that he has seen his work on carbon go bad. This guy does high end work on show bikes and cars so he knows a few things. He tells me that the amount of clear used in several coats of clear likes to delaminate in time. Regardless of the quality of the clear. I just don't like the idea of direct sun on the materials used to hold your expensive parts together. Mainly the problem is with the resins not the composite fibers. If it is a cosmetic bolt on that can be replaced I wouldn't worry.Hey Bobby I was wondering for a long time is it possible to get it carbon fiber look outside ?
A lot of guys ask this question, heres my opinion. It is possible but not a good decision. Its never good to leave any type of composite(fiberglass,carbon,kevlar) exposed to U.V. Now there will be someone with no real knowledge say otherwise. I've been told by chemists and high end painters alike who have been there done and seen the long term results. First, people think that a u.v. stable clear or laminating resin is fine. It is u.v. stable not u.v. proof. Sooner or later it breaks down, as the clear is breaking down the laminating resin of choice to build the product is being affected as well. When the clear can be fixed the resin turns brittle in the exposed laminate. The resin gets brittle to the point that a chunk will turn to a chunky powder in your fingers with pressure. There is the start of problems beyond the surface at this point. Which can cause the part to become brittle and break prematurely. I have seen this happen outside of skis. One painter/artist I trust told me that he has seen his work on carbon go bad. This guy does high end work on show bikes and cars so he knows a few things. He tells me that the amount of clear used in several coats of clear likes to delaminate in time. Regardless of the quality of the clear. I just don't like the idea of direct sun on the materials used to hold your expensive parts together. Mainly the problem is with the resins not the composite fibers. If it is a cosmetic bolt on that can be replaced I wouldn't worry.
A lot of guys ask this question, heres my opinion. It is possible but not a good decision. Its never good to leave any type of composite(fiberglass,carbon,kevlar) exposed to U.V. Now there will be someone with no real knowledge say otherwise. I've been told by chemists and high end painters alike who have been there done and seen the long term results. First, people think that a u.v. stable clear or laminating resin is fine. It is u.v. stable not u.v. proof. Sooner or later it breaks down, as the clear is breaking down the laminating resin of choice to build the product is being affected as well. When the clear can be fixed the resin turns brittle in the exposed laminate. The resin gets brittle to the point that a chunk will turn to a chunky powder in your fingers with pressure. There is the start of problems beyond the surface at this point. Which can cause the part to become brittle and break prematurely. I have seen this happen outside of skis. One painter/artist I trust told me that he has seen his work on carbon go bad. This guy does high end work on show bikes and cars so he knows a few things. He tells me that the amount of clear used in several coats of clear likes to delaminate in time. Regardless of the quality of the clear. I just don't like the idea of direct sun on the materials used to hold your expensive parts together. Mainly the problem is with the resins not the composite fibers. If it is a cosmetic bolt on that can be replaced I wouldn't worry.
'this guy i know asked a burly street vendor, whose now homeless parents know this happy old couple, that had a weird kid, that knew someone, that knew someone else whose overweight father's retarded sister went to school with... and her bucktooth cousin thought is was a bad idea.'
WHAT?!?!?
:Thinkingof_:
we need pictures of AIRPLANES!:swordfight:
:lmao::dance:
'this guy i know asked a burly street vendor, whose now homeless parents know this happy old couple, that had a weird kid, that knew someone, that knew someone else whose overweight father's retarded sister went to school with... and her bucktooth cousin thought is was a bad idea.'
WHAT?!?!?
:Thinkingof_:
we need pictures of AIRPLANES!:swordfight:
:lmao::dance:
Should have expected that kind of response from you. Sorry for putting the facts out there for guys to make a more educated decision.'this guy i know asked a burly street vendor, whose now homeless parents know this happy old couple, that had a weird kid, that knew someone, that knew someone else whose overweight father's retarded sister went to school with... and her bucktooth cousin thought is was a bad idea.'
WHAT?!?!?
:Thinkingof_:
we need pictures of AIRPLANES!:swordfight:
:lmao::dance:
I did, then I thought man this guy is crazy.just laugh, man.....
you know it was kinda funny!
I did, then I thought man this guy is crazy.
Mainly the problem is with the resins not the composite fibers.
Most fibreglass boats and that aren't painted.. ski boats with flashy metallic finishes have a clear gel coat don't they?
Personally I'd prefer the painted, but just curious..
Hey Pete. If I say I want to try it ,when you'll have ski home ,what number in wait line I'll have ?
Finally did it. Deposit is in on a Matrix XF with Pro hood. We're planning on delivery at Nationals in Nashville. Looking forward to it.
:bananajump::bananajump:
O man you could have had a KTM..........
Mark44
Not since Emily works with a parapalegic that got hurt about a year or two ago riding with the back brace and all the safety goodies on.....
if only.....