Urethane motor mounts VS cold fusion motor mounts

[ridethelip]

The Cold fusion test video is more impressive than the Rhaas Video.It's great to see these companies making a better mount.I put the Rhaas mounts in my ski and they are holding up great so far.I am looking forward to more than 3-4 months out of a set of mounts.

 

[Berky]

I'll take a ripped out motor mount/insert any day vs a broken mount, Make them bomb proof motor mount Gurus.

 

[StandupEd]

Just an observation, look closely at the backround on the first video, then look a the backround of the second. I didn't make these video's nor chose to post them, however some one did in both cases (pun intended). A picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Just an observation, look closely at the backround on the first video, then look a the backround of the second. I didn't make these video's nor chose to post them, however some one did in both cases (pun intended). A picture is worth a thousand words.

My thinking is I only fell asleep once watching the first vid, the second vid I nodded off three times.We have determined that any mount will break, both mfgs have had failures, both replaced the failed mounts for free. Buy for whichever company-person you feel comfortable with doing business with, not who can make the best boring ass video clip.

 

[StandupEd]

I think you missed my point

 

[Matt_E]

For those unobservant, the first looks like a testing lab while the second looks like a garage.

 

[yamaslut]

I think he was referring to what is in the background.... one looks like NASA the other looks like someones back yard... I don't think that makes any difference in the quality, but I get his point.

 

[yamaslut]

For those unobservant, the first looks like a testing lab while the second looks like a garage.

go do something and let someone else post for once.. ha

 

[Berky]

CF is high Tech, high class, first rate, no doubt . Maybe the MM vids could have added some music other than the industrial machinery music and dancing as well . I don't care as long as they are strong like bull .

 

[StandupEd]

Honestly, I just thought it was funny as hell. God, I crack myself up sometimes. Hey I still have less than 100 posts!!!! Again, I didn’t post the video. If you can’t laugh what’s the point. Adios Cabrones

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Cold fushion $232.00 a set $58.00 each
R hass $120.00 a set $30.00 each

maybe we are comparing apples and oranges here, or maybe you are paying for that NASA looking lab in the vid.

 

[tightithrash]

Cold fushion $232.00 a set $58.00 each
R hass $120.00 a set $30.00 each

maybe we are comparing apples and oranges here, or maybe you are paying for that NASA looking lab in the vid.

*Fusion

for 28 more bucks you get a BRAND NEW billet anodized top and bottom mount with vulcanized rubber. rhass uses old used mount bases sent in from users and then puts urethane in them. good way to keep cost down but im sure supply and demand can be an issue.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

*Fusion

for 28 more bucks you get a BRAND NEW billet anodized top and bottom mount with vulcanized rubber. rhass uses old used mount bases sent in from users and then puts urethane in them. good way to keep cost down but im sure supply and demand can be an issue.

You meant to say for $28.00 more for each mount I assume, so add $8.00 more and you can have two sets instead of mounts instead one, at any rate my real point is he is aiming at a completely different market than ColdFusion.

New WSM mounts for a Superjet are $36.82 each, new Monkey grips are $36.95 each ,this seems to be the market he is going after and he is within the price range to compete in that market , its also a better mount than those listed with a warranty for less than $4.00 per mount extra.

 

[stanton]

that cold fusion test video just blew my mind, i was waiting for it to snap! insane

wfo must like working on his ski!

i would have the rhass but i threw away all my motor mounts in rage so no bases
cold fusion otw

 

[WaveDemon]

has anyone figured out what causes the existing mounts on the market to fail? Most failures are not due to pancaking huge bakies. I figured it was corrosion of the aluminum base or top plate. How do these new mounts prevent those failures?

 

[stanton]

has anyone figured out what causes the existing mounts on the market to fail? Most failures are not due to pancaking huge bakies. I figured it was corrosion of the aluminum base or top plate. How do these new mounts prevent those failures?

anodized billet aerospace aluminum. cold fusion will for sure last longer

 

[MASSEY]

Yeah, Would'nt want to be the guy filming it that close!

 

[harrypotter]

glad i saw this thread one thing im sure of is i WONT be buying monkeymounts ever ! i even bought a brand new gp800 set machined to fit first go out ripped 2 clean off ! after that i got used oem from the maniac been good for me . i ordered a set of cf ones as backup when they first came out , my buddie needed a set so i gave them to him and told him to get me some more. looks like he got the bad batch of red ones lucky me lol. carl has been a man of his word and replaced them no problem . i have a few cf products on my ski and i am very happy with the quality and customer service of all his sfuff . i did manage to rip the battery box inserts out of the hull with his battery box, but box and battery remained in tact ! also run riser bar steering system , love it for the surf easy to fit no steering bosses to drill no bearings to collect sand and salt . and the gopro hasnt moved either ( must remember to put batterys in that one day ) i would be happy to put a set of cf mounts in when the time comes .

 

[227]

has anyone figured out what causes the existing mounts on the market to fail? Most failures are not due to pancaking huge bakies. I figured it was corrosion of the aluminum base or top plate. How do these new mounts prevent those failures?

All existing mounts are simply rubber vulcanized to a smooth metal base. It looks to me like the Cold Fusion mounts have an irregular shaped insert which protrudes into the rubber (which is molded into/and vulcanized to the mounting surfaces giving them superior binding qualities. I'm going to try a set next time I'm in need.

 

[extreemthrottle]

well, i have to put in my two cents for what its worth..
ive been working with robin, almost since inception and was helping him with the testing of the mounts as well. i used to go through at least one set of oem and other rubber mounts per season in my blaster, which is ridden strictly in the surf. even his first test set he sent me were far superior to the oem product. the set i have now, which is what he is currently selling, is even more superior to his test product! these are built to last and as far as im conserned the last set i will ever buy. if and when these fail, i as well as all his customers will get another set, no questions asked! lifetime warranty!!!
i know that his testing is extensive and he is very meticulous when it comes to quality control. his product is made in house so he is hands on with every aspect of the manufacturing process. i think that is one of the ways he can keep his pricing down and keep the quality control in check.
robin doesnt own a large corperation with lots of employees, he's a rider like the rest of us and fine engineer as well. the product came out of nessesity and a need to fill in the gap where so many others have fallen short.

one of the really important things for me is the stainless steel insert on the rhaas product mounts. this means no more dissimilar metals! if you ride in the salt you know what im talking about. the insert is shaped similar to a spool which really penetrates deep into the mount, giving your bolt alot more to thread into and also more bite for the urethane.

bottom line for me is the quality of the product, the customer service, and the of course the price really helps me in my decision. not to forget the lifetime warranty.
im certianly not putting down the c.f. product, as i have not used it. it looks to be a fine product, and im sure whoever purchases it will be happy as well.
best of luck!