Other Virus Nonsense

[Harbor]

 

[SXIPro]

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Cured by UV! Thanks Dr. Donald!! Do I do this before or after injecting myself with Lysol? God help us. He needs to just stop talking!!!!

 

[Quinc]

Saw a report from Italy saying something like 80% of those that died, died from other causes......... Not Corona.

link?

 

[smokeysevin]

link?

I am not sure about this but I read in passing that the presence of secondary infections was really high in people with covid.

Uneducated guess: getting sick with one thing leaves your immune system weakened which then allows other things to infect you which leads to complications (death)

Sean

 

[mikidymac]

Cured by UV! Thanks Dr. Donald!! Do I do this before or after injecting myself with Lysol? God help us. He needs to just stop talking!!!!

It's ok, they are looking into it. And just to add to his great medically based ideas...... We should probably start removing peoples lungs because..you know.... the virus attacks the lungs...so no lungs = no infection...

 

[SXIPro]

It's ok, they are looking into it. And just to add to his great medically based ideas...... We should probably start removing peoples lungs because..you know.... the virus attacks the lungs...so no lungs = no infection...

You, sir, are Commander In Chief material. It's not too late to run for office to be our next POTUS. You got my vote!

 

[mikidymac]

You, sir, are Commander In Chief material. It's not too late to run for office to be our next POTUS. You got my vote!

I would be a really bad politician or POTUS. I would act with reason and try to do what is best for the people instead of my party or cronies so I wouldn't last long.

 

[smokeysevin]

I would be a really bad politician or POTUS. I would act with reason and try to do what is best for the people instead of my party or cronies so I wouldn't last long.

Don't sell yourself short, anyone remotely sane and who claims they would keep the best interest of the public at heart is immediately run out of politics.

Sean

 

[E350]

From the Telegraph in the United Kingdom:

"Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?

The country's high death toll is due to an ageing population, overstretched health system and the way fatalities are reported

By Sarah Newey, Global health Security Correspondent 23 March 2020 • 4:55pm

“The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.
And according to modelling by Imperial College, London the majority of this age group are likely to need critical hospital care - including 80 per cent of 80-somethings - putting immense pressure on the health system.

But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.

This does not mean that Covid-19 did not contribute to a patient's death, rather it demonstrates that Italy's fatality toll has surged as a large proportion of patients have underlying health conditions. Experts have also warned against making direct comparisons between countries due to discrepancies in testing."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

Please don't make me dig up Dr. Birx's statement that patients in the U.S. who die with coronavirus are coded as dying due to coronavirus?

 

[mikidymac]

From the Telegraph in the United Kingdom:

"Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?

The country's high death toll is due to an ageing population, overstretched health system and the way fatalities are reported

By Sarah Newey, Global health Security Correspondent 23 March 2020 • 4:55pm

“The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.
And according to modelling by Imperial College, London the majority of this age group are likely to need critical hospital care - including 80 per cent of 80-somethings - putting immense pressure on the health system.

But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.

This does not mean that Covid-19 did not contribute to a patient's death, rather it demonstrates that Italy's fatality toll has surged as a large proportion of patients have underlying health conditions. Experts have also warned against making direct comparisons between countries due to discrepancies in testing."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

Please don't make me dig up Dr. Birx's statement that patients in the U.S. who die with coronavirus are coded as dying due to coronavirus?

So what are you saying? If someone that has a bad heart gets the virus and dies then we should say that his death should be due to a bad heart and not the virus? Would his heart have given out if he was well and did not get the virus? Or someone that gets the virus then it leads to pneumonia that kills them. Should we say that it is not due to the virus but that it was just the pneumonia that killed them? They wouldn't have had pneumonia if they didn't get the virus first.
Should we not be counting the virus deaths if they didn't exactly cause the deaths but a secondary condition was that was first triggered by the virus?

To make it personal, my uncle is battling ALS and will not win that battle. The end result will be that his body will no longer be able to breath and take up enough oxygen so he will die from asphyxiation. So should we not count him as a statistic of ALS and that he died from ALS but just say and certify that he died form asphyxiation.

 

[mikesx]

 

[E350]

So what are you saying? . . .
To make it personal, my uncle is battling ALS and will not win that battle. The end result will be that his body will no longer be able to breath and take up enough oxygen so he will die from asphyxiation. So should we not count him as a statistic of ALS and that he died from ALS but just say and certify that he died form asphyxiation.

All I did was provide what may have been the link to the U.K. Telegraph newspaper article that BK may have read or heard about.

I didn't write the article. But it seems worthy of being read doesn't it?

Since you asked me what am I saying, I guess this is an opportunity for me to state my opinion for your consideration. It is just an opinion it is just what I think.

I am sorry your uncle has ALS, it is my understanding that there is still no cure. My wife's boss died of ALS a couple of years ago. He was a great guy.

I THINK WE SHOULD QUARANTINE THE OBVIOUSLY INFECTED, QUARANTINE THE VULNERABLE INCLUDING YOUR UNCLE, QUARANTINE THE AGED IN NURSING HOMES AND QUARANTINE THE HOTSPOTS IN NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY.

AND LET THE REST OF THIS NATION'S 330,000,000 CITIZENS GO BACK TO WORK IF THEY WANT TO OR IF THEY HAVE TO.

OUR FOREFATHERS AND OUR FOREMOTHERS RISKED THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY AND IT IS NOW UP TO US TO RISK OUR LIVES TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY TOO.

 

[mikidymac]

All I did was provide what may have been the link to the U.K. Telegraph newspaper article that BK may have read or heard about.

I didn't write the article. But it seems worthy of being read doesn't it?

Since you asked me what am I saying, I guess this is an opportunity for me to state my opinion for your consideration. It is just an opinion it is just what I think.

I am sorry your uncle has ALS, it is my understanding that there is still no cure. My wife's boss died of ALS a couple of years ago. He was a great guy.

I THINK WE SHOULD QUARANTINE THE OBVIOUSLY INFECTED, QUARANTINE THE VULNERABLE INCLUDING YOUR UNCLE, QUARANTINE THE AGED IN NURSING HOMES AND QUARANTINE THE HOTSPOTS IN NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY.

AND LET THE REST OF THIS NATION'S 330,000,000 CITIZENS GO BACK TO WORK IF THEY WANT TO OR IF THEY HAVE TO.

OUR FOREFATHERS AND OUR FOREMOTHERS RISKED THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY AND IT IS NOW UP TO US TO RISK OUR LIVES TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY TOO.

Wasn't trying to go after you E350, just asking what you were trying to say with that article. I got it now.

I agree with your thoughts on the people we should quarantine but without plenty of testing how do we know who the "obviously infected" are since you can have no symptoms and still spread it.

I also agree that areas with low numbers and that is most of the country, we should go back to work and wear masks and take precautions but you shouldn't be punished if you don't feel safe to do so. Areas with high numbers or high risk should stay away longer.

 

[E350]

Forget about testing. It is just an excuse not to open the country.

Have you actually tried to be tested?

Although they are testing BELOW CAPACITY TO TEST in my county, they refuse to test you if you don't have symptoms.

If you have symptoms, they still don't want to test you.

They want you to stay home and see if you get better on your own and only if you don't do they want you to go to the hospital, where you will only then be tested when they examine you in order to determine how to treat you.

So, forget about testing.

Except for antibody testing which Birx and Fauci don't want because it will reveal that many of us already had and beat the disease and are immune and therefore can go back to work but which will increase the denominator of infected persons which when you put the number of those who have died because of the disease as the numerator, will reveal that, historically, the common flu has often had a higher death rate.

Keep social distancing, wear a mask, wear gloves, put on your big boy pants and get back work.

 

[SXIPro]

Gonna go quarantine myself between a beautiful set of hooters and medicate myself with a few Mai Tais. (not specifically in that order) . Have a great weekend boys!!!

 

[E350]

Exciting Official COVID-19 and Jet Skiing News!

On Wednesday I sent the following email to our County Board of Supervisors:

"Apparently vitamin D and Zinc are helpful in combating Covid-19.
So outside activities in the Sun should be encouraged.

Especially activities which may be engaged with social distancing.
Boating, fishing, jet skiing are such activities.

Additionally, some people may need to fish for sustenance since they are not working.
Those people have been parking on the narrow levee road (instead of in the Launch Ramp parking lot) which endangers travel.

Would you kindly open the Launch Ramp to promote such activities?

Sincerely,"

And it is 91 F here today and guess what?

Our great Board of Supervisors opened the launch ramp!

There are signs saying "Observe Social Distance. Stay 6 feet or more from other people. When that is not possible, wear a mask."

So we are going stand up jet skiing on the river in the Sun tomorrow!

Yeah Baby!


* I know my email probably didn't cause it to open, but possibly it didn't hurt either.

 

[Frosty]

@E350 right on brother. That's great news!

good thing I launch on my own beach here... our corrupt town will not be opening the marina/launch this year because they squandered all of the money on BS projects and cannot afford to dredge the mouth of the marina. Gotta love NY.

 

[Frosty]

Saturday morning rant:

Yet another sign of how this planet needs a culling... look at all of masks and gloves now being discarded in parking lots. People suck!! God damn scumbags!!!

I'm kinda rooting for nature on this one...

ok, rant over. and no, I don't want to see tens of millions die... but damn, it pisses me off that people can't even pick up after themselves.

 

[mxmark4]

If only.this disease could selectively eliminate trash from our planet.

 

[Wetbuffalo]

Contact tracing using your cell phone gps, no thank you. But it’s not like big brother can’t track people now anyways. They are just looking for a way to “legally” do.