Other Virus Nonsense

Noah_g

Noah_g

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Wisconsin
egbrig said:
As an US citizen, keeping our rights comes first. Our self determination is at the heart of it all. When we take direction from "those that know better" we become subordinates with no freedom. Saying you'll give up some freedom for a little security, well, you get Canada and gun control to the extreme, what's next. Freedom's are not given by the government they are absolute rights, period, without question. This covid con, is just a tool to take away liberties. Do you know what happened after the Y2K scam? 911 Patriot Law? This entire covid scam shows how people think, sheeple or free thinker. I do not and will not apologize for offending anyone when it comes to my rights as listed in the Bil of Rights. Every year we lose people to the flu, but before now you probably didn't know that, and now you think covid is the only thing that's ever happened flu wise in your life time. Here is info kept out of the media:

On April 8, Professor Jean-François Delfraissy said, “… we’re worried about our friends in America, where the problem of obesity is well known and where they will probably have the most problems ....” Need to change focus! I am not shaming anyone, but I want to put this idea out there. How many lives can we save if we encourage healthy eating and exercise? A mask will not help people fight Covid-19. It prolongs the inevitable. DO THE RESEARCH! Just type “OBESITY AND CORONAVIRUS”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...-extra-precautions/groups-at-higher-risk.html

o your own research and don't listen to the media.
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If anyone on the other side of the spectrum reads something they don't like they will ignore it. You're beating a dead horse.

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Flyboy

Location
Southern Idaho
aboarder said:
I'm a firefighter. Last check, 10 guys on my department had covid. Several of them couldn't breathe well enough to get up the stairs in their house. We carry 100-150lbs of gear up highrises on a regular basis. Being physically fit won't save you, though it's something more of us should practice regularly anyway.
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Not to take anything away from people being sick but I think everyone has forgot what getting the flu feels like, even the common cold. If you had the flu and tried climbing a flight of stairs, you would be exhausted.
 
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egbrig

I guess no one is reading the link I posted. The CDC shows that 50% of the people in the US that died are obese. In the Uk it's 70%, Iran says 80% . France and Italy say obesity and hypertension are the greatest issue when dealing with Covid 19.
 
Harbor

Harbor

Location
Stockton
egbrig said:
I guess no one is reading the link I posted. The CDC shows that 50% of the people in the US that died are obese. In the Uk it's 70%, Iran says 80% . France and Italy say obesity and hypertension are the greatest issue when dealing with Covid 19.
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Yeah I started reading it this morning, good read so far, but hadn’t finished...

Yes I remember early on they were taking about the possibility all the obesity in the U.S. could make matters worse here..

For me it’s more personal, I can see the difficulty my wife has breathing on a daily basis from COPD. Adding covid on top of it would = no Bueno.
 
E350

E350

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Sacramento Delta
Can't wait for the next biological weapon China will send us. Apparently the outbreak of the new swine flu has already erupted there.

If anyone knows, why does China always seem to be the source of the seasonal flu and other such diseases?

Is it a national hygiene problem?
 
Jetfiend

Jetfiend

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PNW
E350 said:
Can't wait for the next biological weapon China will send us. Apparently the outbreak of the new swine flu has already erupted there.

If anyone knows, why does China always seem to be the source of the seasonal flu and other such diseases?

Is it a national hygiene problem?
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Hygiene problem? I think not. How about D-bags like Bill Gates and his billionaire buddies, funding labs in China to produce these bio-weapons?
 
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mikesx

Jetfiend said:
Hygiene problem? I think not. How about D-bags like Bill Gates and his billionaire buddies, funding labs in China to produce these bio-weapons?
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I don’t know what Bill Gates and his billionaire buddies get out of it, but I could see the PLA benefitting greatly. Our president is playing checkers and lives for the 24 hr news cycle, the Chinese have 1000 yr dynasty’s and are playing chess. Just seems like a perfect response to a trade war, I mean like why should they fight a trade war with trade. Killed our economy, and our people. One thing they can afford to lose is people,350 million, that’s a drop in the bucket to them, but that would leave a lot of empty real estate here. Think about it, they could move right in with no construction cost. Never fire a single shot. What are we going to do against something like this? Send an aircraft carrier group ? Coronavirus loves packed ships. Martial arts, use your enemies strengths against himself. Took away our strong economy with the snap of a finger. Using our freedom to help spread it. And you got to believe even if it wasn’t intentional this time that those Chinese generals aren’t all giddy about how to do it next time. This was probably just a test.
 
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smokeysevin

smokeysevin

one man with a couch
Location
Houston
E350 said:
Can't wait for the next biological weapon China will send us. Apparently the outbreak of the new swine flu has already erupted there.

If anyone knows, why does China always seem to be the source of the seasonal flu and other such diseases?

Is it a national hygiene problem?
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A big part of it is animal safety and how their food is produced.

The current strain is thought to have originated in an open air market in Wuhan where loads of different wildlife species were in close quarters without any santiary precautions.

Swine flu and bird flu also are like that as was the. 1918 spanish flu.

Basically, anytime you have different species in tight confines, you can have cross transmission.

A couple years ago there was another virus that infected pigs in china where they had to slaughter a huge portion of the population because there was no treatment/vaccine for it. That particular one was also highly transmissable and I think caused illness in humans as well.

Sean
 
E350

E350

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Sacramento Delta
Definitely seems consistent with Governor Newsome's (nephew of Nancy Pelosi) plan to eliminate small independent businesses in California.

Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) which was passed and signed by Newsome in 2019 made it illegal to be a Lift or Uber driver unless you are a Lift or Uber employee.

Small business is being killed by the closures. The Democrats are planning to revoke the Prop 13 property tax exemption for small businesses and family farms which have stayed in the family and have been passed down through the generations. (Such property cannot be reassessed when it is transferred to a child or grandchild.) Most small businesses and family farms only survive because the Prop. 13 reassessment exemption keeps their taxes low. The increase in value of the property over time is also the owners' retirement asset.

Even big business is at risk in California. Newsome has threatened to take over Pacific Gas & Electric Company which supplies gas and electricity to much of the state. The Gov't of Venezuela took over the oil companies. Now there is no gasoline. And no income from gasoline sales.

Costco, Amazon and the State of California are making money hand over fist.

Soon we will all work for them or for the State of California or be unemployed just like it is in the paradise of Venezuela.
 
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E350

E350

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Sacramento Delta
Different proposition with the same name.
Prop 13 by Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Assn. in 1978 is still a preferred tax exemption enshrined in our Calif. Constitution and is favored by many Californians.
The recent Prop 13 had the same title number but was a liberal proposition having nothing to do with property taxes.
The Democrat Secretary of State named it the same as the familiar "Prop 13" hoping that it would pass because of Californian's desire to maintain (i.e., to vote for) "Prop 13."
 
aboarder

aboarder

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Goodwood, ON
I'm all for data and graphs, but it seems that what constitutes as a covid death is different everywhere. Some just assume deaths are covid related, some assume they aren't without testing. Some places test people and even if they clearly died of a bullet wound, if they were covid positive it would be recorded as a covid death. The best graphs that I've seen are average death rate for countries, vs 2020 death rate.
 
aboarder

aboarder

Location
Goodwood, ON
Something like this but up to date and clear numbers is what we need.

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