what temp are you running your rrp pipe at???

masterblaster

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Big Kahuna said:
"With RRP recommended jets I was not impressed at all with the performance" This is pretty plain and simple to understand....... I understood what he meant.... See Below for quote from both his post. He has not updated since he said he "Will install 60 jet and try" He never said he tried a 60 jet.

“One thing I cannot stand about this pipe is the lack of tech support avail from other users and the manufacturer.
I took off a PFP to try the RRP (luckily it cost me nothing but time to try). With RRP recommended jets I was not impressed at all with the performance. Slightly better hit than PFP on bottom (VERY SLIGHT) not as good of a mid range or mid/top. So................ more tuning needed obviously? Start reducing water and increasing chamber temp I ASSUME? Some say the nice thing is the RRP is easily tunable, the downside is it will need to be as water temp seems to drastically change your tuning. The PFP run as dry seems way more even killed even in drastic water temp changes a quick twist of the fcv and go on really and rarely do I even do that.
I think the RRP can be a good alternative if the mfr would put out a tuning guide based on different water temps, motor sizes and a variety of jet setting suggestions for various conditions.
Anotherwords, do not let chamber exceed _______ degrees, optimum operating temp ________ degrees for chamber and ______ degrees for waterbox. Jets recommended to carry for tuning lows _______ thru highest _______. Its as if they are selling a product they have yet to properly engineer or understand. PFP was the same way at first but its been out long enough for this info to be avail from them IMO. Simple info like MAX chamber temp and optimal chamber temp would be very helpful, we don't even know what the resin in these pipes can withstand.

update on latest test:

I am running a dedicated line to the spray bars (in from pump at 1/2", reduced at bulkhead to 3/8") total of 3 incoming water lines so I can do this.
3/8" into a flow control valve, then to a 3/8" PFP filter, then a 3/8" into 2 1/4" lines, one to head pipe with now 77.5 jet and one to waterbox with 110 jet, no jets in filters at all. IT hits WAY harder and chamber is still only at 135 degrees at hottest point. Water temp is about 78 degrees yesterday when testing . will install 60jet and try this weekend I have some slit spray bars to try as well. Will keep this updated best I can?
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umm yes he did say he tried a 60 jet twice actually once in post 12 and again in post 45 saying he has tried between 110 and 60 in the bar. with all that testing done its safe to assume he found something other than stock jets,to compare this current setup to. I was asking a VERY basic question,If he wants to get all confrontational about it. At least have something to say that didnt come from the peanut gallery team
 
Harbor

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masterblaster said:
umm yes he did say he tried a 60 jet twice actually once in post 12 and again in post 45
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Your so confused. Post 12 is josh and post 42 is sjetrider. At this point the only Honerable way out is to surrender.

In the future you might try to come across less like an expert. Saying "we tried this in testing" and such makes it sound like you made the part your speaking on. I know your not claiming you made a paticulr part but the verbiage is more associated with someone making parts and testing. Not just here but in a lot of your posts.

You have good info to share and good experience, sometimes saying less is more.
 
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masterblaster

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Harbor said:
Your so confused. Post 12 is josh and post 42 is sjetrider. At this point the only Honerable way out is to surrender.

In the future you might try to come across less like an expert. Saying "we tried this in testing" and such makes it sound like you made the part your speaking on. I know your not claiming you made a paticulr part but the verbiage is more associated with someone making parts and testing. Not just here but in a lot of your posts.

You have good info to share and good experience, sometimes saying less is more.
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Harbor..Im not confused,I posted about specifically posts 12 and 45.both the same person..you posted 42. If bk is quoting someone other than that,whats the point? thats not who im talking to or what this about at all. frigin twilight zone over here.
You make more informative posts than most.Surprised you dont see right through this non sense. I dont claim to make any of these pipes,Now someone cant test & tune water settings without being the manufacturer or claiming to be a expert ? that really makes no sense at all either. Im sorry but tuning carbs and water settings can be done very well by anyone who can read and takes the time to do so. The people here that think it takes a expert to do so are the same people that cant change their own oil or sim simple task in their car because they think it takes a master tech mechanic to do so.
 
jo5hi3

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See I get a kick out of this, because you have your panties in such a tight wad right now that a queef couldn't get out. The first picture i posted looked terrible, for someone that has all this advice to give. You also mention me not giving details, well neither do you. I haven't said what I am currently running, but to anyone that wants to know they can feel free to send me a pm, except you @masterblaster. It's pretty clear that you are one of those perfect people who can do no wrong. You just stay out there in your pretty little world and I'll sit over here on the other side with everyone else who thinks just as little of you.
 
masterblaster

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Thats what I get for trying to reason with a indoctrinated jetski nutswinger. See I get a kick out of anyone associated with people like you.I could care less what your running at this point, I could run your Tampon box for a gas tank and make more power than your 60 jet will do for you. My boxers are baggin your thong is throbin dude


"""A couple of mufflers I tested had no back pressure at low pulse waves and inconsistent pressures at mid to high rpm.
This design holds 3psi from 3500rom to 7800rpm.
This will allow you to actually tune the stinger and see changes.
It's 22 CI larger then other square type and 0ver 35ci bigger on pressure side of the baffle. This allows better throttle response when the exhaust is water loaded.
Jetting is much more consistent and helps eliminate the need for constant blipping of the throttle to keep the motor cleaned out.""" TIM >

This is just one reason running a rrp box so dry is retarded. They are very sensitive to back pressure since the water creates the pressure and they have no stinger tuning. Most guys have no clue how important the wb really is with these big pipes Ive wanted to try the xs 900 wb for this reason with the rrp,but maybe this new one is just as good or better
 
jo5hi3

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masterblaster said:
Thats what I get for trying to reason with a indoctrinated jetski nutswinger. See I get a kick out of anyone associated with people like you.I could care less what your running at this point, I could run your Tampon box for a gas tank and make more power than your 60 jet will do for you. My boxers are baggin your thong is throbin dude


"""A couple of mufflers I tested had no back pressure at low pulse waves and inconsistent pressures at mid to high rpm.
This design holds 3psi from 3500rom to 7800rpm.
This will allow you to actually tune the stinger and see changes.
It's 22 CI larger then other square type and 0ver 35ci bigger on pressure side of the baffle. This allows better throttle response when the exhaust is water loaded.
Jetting is much more consistent and helps eliminate the need for constant blipping of the throttle to keep the motor cleaned out.""" TIM >

This is just one reason running a rrp box so dry is retarded. They are very sensitive to back pressure since the water creates the pressure and they have no stinger tuning. Most guys have no clue how important the wb really is with these big pipes Ive wanted to try the xs 900 wb for this reason with the rrp,but maybe this new one is just as good or better
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I think you have room for a tampon box in there, so go for it. As far as my water box, its not dry.... only a retard would think that a wet pipe could possibly ever have a dry waterbox. But you think your setup is so so great, but I have a crisp $100 bill that says my setup will walk circles around yours. I really liked when you said the dry pipe would never do as well as the wet pipe ( I put what you said into my own words... so not a direct quote), clearly you don't know how to tune or prop a dry pipe correctly. Most of the respected tuners and builders don't like you, now one the other hand I have my own reasons. Go on, get out in that salty water and try out that 60 jet, you may be surprised.....
 
jo5hi3

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Matt Jones said:
ok great...i know both of those situations so i think ive got a good understanding of b pipe temps now. lol :D
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I mean, I'm not master like the king above. But I'm still not sure what he is a master of or about..... Maybe his name was a typo and it was supposed to be masterbater..... But that's just rumors.
 
masterblaster

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mehhh im getting bored with you now. your post 52.
"My box is super super dry. I have not actually checked if the flow control valve flows at all, but it is almost closed. I also have a 2.3 seat in the water line running to the box. But running mine that dry did not affect performance at all" So in your instruction book super super dry not even thinking fcv is opening is plenty of water in the wb and now a 60 jet in the bar works great also...ok supertuner


Matt read that thread,a hot bpipe makes less low end,depends what you want. if it sizzles water driped on it,makes great mid to top. everyone in that thread posting,isnt wrong
 
masterblaster

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ride off eh. Considering I have a stock stroke crank and pump fuel setup,id laugh pretty hard if he lost. Let me put a 10 mill back in with some ms109 domes and tune,any knucklebuck tune makes stupid power on that setup
 
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