wydopen
onthepipe
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- Goleta the Goodland
I think it's safe to say our ideas of "surfriding" may differ..
Custom/Hybrid When will there be a hull everyone can afford?
- Thread starter Brian_216
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I think it's safe to say our ideas of "surfriding" may differ..
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
Pre moto hoagie before every ride
hoagies!!!!
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- Huntington Beach, Ca
well, I surf too, so I know what surf riding is. If you have a picture or video of someone going 12 o clock and having the tail follow though please post it!!
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
i completly agree with you that you cant do the exact same kinds of turns on a ski as a surfboard and i doubt there will ever be a ski that can turn like that...if there was one it would pretty much be a motorized surfboard and people have been trying to make those for years with little success...theres a ton of things that you can do on a ski that you cant do surfing and thats whats cool about them....when i think about surfriding i dont think dropping in on a wave before its broken and riding the entire wave down the line like you would surfing...if you are gonna do that just surf...the cool thing about a ski especially if you grew up surfing is you arnt limited to riding on the actual face of the wave..its awsome to be able to take all kinds of different approaches and angles...
if you had a ski that was able to pivot off your back foot like that i think it would be kinda like a backflip huil..too specialized to be good at everything and skis are too expensive to have a ski for every condition like surfing...
they do, its called a chrysler.
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- St.catharines, Ontario
Or lambo or Ferrari ..
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Brotastic
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- Arlington TX
I had a big reply written up, but as i re-read over your stance on this subject, I realize that in your eyes I will be wrong no matter what I say.
I truely respect that you were present for the peak of this sport and that back in the day people had a ton more skills. I wish I had been involved then, because I enjoy the hell out of this now with the small group of friends who i've made in the 3 years i've been riding.
I just don't see what the harm is in someone wanting to try a better hull, regardless of their skill level. Its money that goes toward people who support the sport.
Sorry to thread jack Brian, I'm very intrested in the results of your endeavor. Nickwads hull is beautiful, I hope you can make it work.
- Location
- Austin, Tx
Something I think is worth mentioning about this project:
Everything available in the realm of 3k or lower is basically an SJ hull. Some people have mentioned that you should just use a modded stock SJ hull if you cant afford aftermarket.
-There is one HUGE problem with that in my mind. Maybe this is stupid, but one of my core reasons for wanting an aftermarket hull is a nice WIDE engine bay. I hate that my $800 pipe rubbs, I hate installing it even more. I hate installing everything in that cramped space. Second problem I have with that is that a hacked SJ hull is no longer one piece. If you have good composite skills, maybe this isn't an issue for you.
I could go on, but the point is that there is a hole in the market that COULD be filled with something like this. I say go for it, I'd be interested in one.
Everything available in the realm of 3k or lower is basically an SJ hull. Some people have mentioned that you should just use a modded stock SJ hull if you cant afford aftermarket.
-There is one HUGE problem with that in my mind. Maybe this is stupid, but one of my core reasons for wanting an aftermarket hull is a nice WIDE engine bay. I hate that my $800 pipe rubbs, I hate installing it even more. I hate installing everything in that cramped space. Second problem I have with that is that a hacked SJ hull is no longer one piece. If you have good composite skills, maybe this isn't an issue for you.
I could go on, but the point is that there is a hole in the market that COULD be filled with something like this. I say go for it, I'd be interested in one.
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
Read the third paragraph again. If your ski can backflip but can't turn is it a better ski? If your ski is more stable and easier to ride but once you have progressed enough to push it dosnt handle better than the stock ski you had in the first place..is that better?? That's my point.
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
Also I don't think companies selling 12k$ motors 1500$ handlepoles and 8k$ hills are doing the sport any favors. In the past you could buy a stocker, throw a couple parts on it and have fun. Now people think they need a 30k $ ski..
Yamaha can sell the entire ski for 8gs. You can barley get a hull for that
Yamaha can sell the entire ski for 8gs. You can barley get a hull for that
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OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
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- Rentz, GA
Agreeing on the perfect ski is like agreeing on the perfect Woman. Perfect for one person is completely different for another so why even engage in such discussion?
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- South Florida
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Jamie FN Hickey
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- Palm Coast FL
I stopped racing dirtbikes because I thought I was spending too much money and too much time away from my family so I figured I'd slow down and try jetskis. Well I do get more family time now but I was SOOOO wrong about it being cheaper!!!
Why do I choose all the most expensive hobbies? Most people can just buy a ball to bounce, throw, or kick and that occupies them for hours...
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- Boynton Beach, FL
I agree with OCD above on #74. I also remember how blown away I was when Brian @ Thrust told me 3 years ago he had just finished building a pair of $30k skis for someone...but now I can see it I think I have nearly 10 in mine and its a 'nothing special' RN . If this sport is losing market share in the surf and picking it up in flat water where its accessible to more folks with more money than skills, i can't find a problem with that. Maybe tray talent has been replaced with billet liter motors and PV's but from my view its reintroducing standups into public view. Further I see no problem with people buying 8k hulls or overpriced cast aluminum poles, its keeping someone working somewhere. I want one too but I wont be buying one-also no harm in that. I bet the classic talented MX riders had the same discussions when the likes of Pastrana and Deegan started setting up jumbo foam pits in their yards it seems to me to be the natural progression-and look how popular it is now.
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Big Kahuna
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What happened to going out and just having fun!!!!!!!!!!!
DK-Freestyle
2011 World Champion
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- Oakley, CA
No one needs a 30k ski to have fun.. but you need a 30k to be competitive. Theres a reason no one in Pro Freestyle uses a Super Jet hull... it's not competitive. Its still a great hull for surf riding, but flat water has progressed past the 15-year old Super Jet hull design.
If you're having fun on a super jet, more power to you. But c'mon, no need to start bashing the companies that are offering AM hulls for the guys who want to do more.
If you're having fun on a super jet, more power to you. But c'mon, no need to start bashing the companies that are offering AM hulls for the guys who want to do more.
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Big Kahuna
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
same holds true for Amateur Freestyle. You have to have 25K to be competitive now. IJSBA Tour Stop is going to be 100 miles from me. I am going........... To Watch.