I don't think he was bashing or implying that somebody should bash Bobby for the issue.
Custom/Hybrid Who else is glad they didnt buy a stunt hull?
- Thread starter BombThreat
- Start date
- Location
- s florida
I would say that this post is spot on! :arms:
From every single post on this forum, nothing negative has ever been said towards Bobby and his product...but as we all know, nobody is perfect or makes the"perfect" products. The key is that he stands behind his product 100%, just like x-metal or any other reputable companies out their. On the other hand, many cannot say the same for the "other" companies that don't stand behind theirs and of course, that's the reason threads like these are started.
Cannibal
Tasty Human
- Location
- Summit Lake, WA
So realistically, what is expected from an A/M hull? If you are learning on it, one failed roll/flip/stab after another is going to take it's toll on any hull. How long 'should' the warranty be and under what conditions? I mean if this thing free falls from 20feet after a big bail and hits hard with the bond line pop or crack or whatever, is that warranty? If I buy a new dirt bike and bail at 20' and it bends the frame, is that warranty? I think a lot of us are under the assumption that every after market hull should withstand everything we throw at it. Should they? Sure, on that new dirt bike, it will be obvious to the dealer or manufacturer that it was in an accident. That kind of abuse is hard to prove when your ski hits the water.
bad93blaster
X-H2
I was not bashing
Bk stated well let's clear the air so I was trying to help him out. Pete never complained why would he bobby has a great product. Wait if pete never complained how did you know about one of the problems? Why not talk about the second problem and I explain why I think its funny
Xmetal gives a lifetime warrenty on there poles. They don't claim none of them have been broken
I'm not bashing I just wish people would be honest
Bk stated well let's clear the air so I was trying to help him out. Pete never complained why would he bobby has a great product. Wait if pete never complained how did you know about one of the problems? Why not talk about the second problem and I explain why I think its funny
Xmetal gives a lifetime warrenty on there poles. They don't claim none of them have been broken
I'm not bashing I just wish people would be honest
- Location
- Raleigh NC\Lake Jordan
Anyways, like waternut said some people were impatient with the hulls and started to sell them (one being me, but its nfs anymore) and I just dont think chips likes such a short hull, I dont think hes unhappy with his hull, because its one of the best looking stunts imo. And Im pretty darn sure chips was the only one trying to sell it (besides me) I think everyone is having tons of fun on them, and waternut has been ripping his for a while now and theres nothing wrong with the hull. I can personally say its REALLY strong just by trying to flex it myself during the build and whatnot. Its a pretty thick hull and yet retaining a very light weight. I think the hull rides superb (of course not at high speeds though since its so short). To me its very stable and feels great. Personally if someone complete the hull and it was truely ready to ride hull (just put in components ) and was selling it second hand NOT from dan or goose. Then I wouldnt mind buying it.
yamaslut
kill it
- Location
- Daytona Beach, Florida
Speaking as someone that has been around for a while and has seen and heard a lot... Dan's rep has not been positive since he started making parts back when he was a kid... As far as I can tell he and anything he puts out should be avoided like the plague. I have heard horror stories and seen the product he has put out and all I can say is it is horrible. Nothing he has made that i have seen looks finished and/or up to any standards at all... It's just crap and he uses people to get money and then never backs up 
. A kid here in town just got totally screwed by him when he bought the "new' hull he put out after the Stunt... It looks like a pile of fiberglass that has no rhyme or meaning to it... SO the kid basically just threw $1500 out the window...
DO NOT BUY PRODUCTS FROM HIM AND YOU WON"T GET SCREWED....
I hate to say bad things about someone who has personally never screwed me over, but I have seen too much to be quiet about it...
. A kid here in town just got totally screwed by him when he bought the "new' hull he put out after the Stunt... It looks like a pile of fiberglass that has no rhyme or meaning to it... SO the kid basically just threw $1500 out the window... DO NOT BUY PRODUCTS FROM HIM AND YOU WON"T GET SCREWED....
I hate to say bad things about someone who has personally never screwed me over, but I have seen too much to be quiet about it...
- Location
- Windsor Ontario Canada
Anyone know where in Canada the Matrix is headed. Is the owner on this forum? I would love to see one in person. Id give him a case of beer for a ride lol!
OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
Not sure he wants it to be public but Alberta I believe...hopefully I haven't said too much already. :sneaky: Oh, and better make than Crown Royal, it will not be a beer boat. :biggrin:
If you come down for Daytona we can put you on one as well. :bigok:
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- Location
- Fort Sask, AB
Alberta eh? :wavey: he should PM me and we can go have a BOB vs Matrix show down at high noon.
Good God man...he came out with a HRC2??!
SXR-FOREVER
Finally Flippin
- Location
- Lake Minnetonka, MN
To clearify: the hull itself is perfectly fine.
After seeing what people do to hulls in the surf and flat water, I can't believe anyone would warranty any part in this industry much less hulls . People should honest and get their expectations in line with reality . You can't show me a product that can with stand the pounding some riders can dish out year after year. I think most people buy a hull after reading about it and asking others . You should do your homework , as some builders quality / fit and finnish leave a lot to be desired . I truly think your best bet is to road trip to where ever and test ride . If a hull is in my future It will be built by someone I can drive to in a day for service IE. repairs. Motors are easy to ship hulls are another story.
John , well stated in your earlier post . All you Stunt hullers out their enjoy the fruits of your labor it will last as long as it last . After all they are all just " stupid jet skis " .
John , well stated in your earlier post . All you Stunt hullers out their enjoy the fruits of your labor it will last as long as it last . After all they are all just " stupid jet skis " .
- Location
- Cheney lake Kansas
I love my hull , I dont like to ride my sj anymore ... its too big, and heavy
keep hating, I ll keep riding
keep hating, I ll keep riding
l heard there was a newer better version of the "Stunt Hole".But l can't find Dan anywhere? Anyone know?
mfg: LOLAnd thanks chad for your comment! l was waiting for your 2 cents worth!
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Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
Yeah, but your hull came out of the Skunk Works Factory in Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you are liking it.
These hulls are kinda like the run down houses people buy to fix up. You got to put alot of sweat equity into them to get them to how you want them.
OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
And trust me, the effort you guys put into those hulls did not go unnoticed. Those hulls are huge projects and you guys all finished them very well considering where you started. I wouldn't even consider such an undertaking much less come out with skis as nice as what you guys did. I just don't have that kind of time anymore.
Speaking as someone that has been around for a while and has seen and heard a lot... Dan's rep has not been positive since he started making parts back when he was a kid... As far as I can tell he and anything he puts out should be avoided like the plague. I have heard horror stories and seen the product he has put out and all I can say is it is horrible. Nothing he has made that i have seen looks finished and/or up to any standards at all... It's just crap and he uses people to get money and then never backs up
DO NOT BUY PRODUCTS FROM HIM AND YOU WON"T GET SCREWED....
I hate to say bad things about someone who has personally never screwed me over, but I have seen too much to be quiet about it...
I'm glad you are saying something. When I bought my hull, the only things I could find regarding highroller were good. No one had really spoken up about his horrible products or reputation until a month or so after I put my money down. Had I known the reputation, I probably would've ended up doing a top deck conversion instead.
I would say the title of thread should say: "Who is glad they've never dealt with Dan/Highroller?", not "Who's glad they didn't buy a stunt?". I've ridden Waternut's enough to say that it's a nice "finished" product. It's always in transition since John is forever trying new options on his ski, but he has it setup so that it WANTS to get out of the water and in the air. He's running a 701 with sport porting and it is plenty capable of BF's, and rolls...with a rider better than me. All in all the stunt is a fine ski. The catch is that you have to put a TON of R&D in to get it correct. Not a problem if you know that going in. The bad press on here has forever doomed those who have one and want to sell them. However, I would be much more inclined to buy a used one that has had most of the bugs worked out and then it's simple fit and finish for the new owner to get it right. I have never owned an A/M hull, but when going from my RN to Waternuts stunt you can feel immediately that his setup is lighter and more nimble. You can buy nicer hulls for sure, but you know that you won't get any of those hulls or even kits for $1500...not even a top deck. I don't give one ounce of crap about Dan or his ski's, but for those who've invested time, money, blood, sweat, etc in stunts the bashing should take a back seat. Between Chad, Sanoman, Waternut, and NCBrock I think there is a template for how to get one done correct. I'd like to see someone push a stunt hull and see what it can and can't handle. Screw Dan (Highroller), but don't forget those who've bought his stuff are "one of us" not "one of them."
Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
I am still trying to figure out your cover-up theory. Where have people tried to cover up anything, Honestly cannot recall Pete ever posting that there was a problem with the hull or defect or damage for that matter.
I think I heard one time about some damage to Pete's ski, cannot even remember who told me about it or even what was actually wrong with it.