Yamaha 701/760 Freestyle/Freeride porting templates

yamanube

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I am working on a Kawasaki 750/800 template, I hope to finish drafting them up before the end of the month. I will post a new thread when they are available.
Sorry Kawasaki 650 guys, I know I said they are coming but I keep putting it off. I've got a 750sx in my garage right now so that's why it is coming first.
 
I am working on a Kawasaki 750/800 template, I hope to finish drafting them up before the end of the month. I will post a new thread when they are available.
Sorry Kawasaki 650 guys, I know I said they are coming but I keep putting it off. I've got a 750sx in my garage right now so that's why it is coming first.
Sent you a pm about 760 templates

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I am working on a Kawasaki 750/800 template, I hope to finish drafting them up before the end of the month. I will post a new thread when they are available.
Sorry Kawasaki 650 guys, I know I said they are coming but I keep putting it off. I've got a 750sx in my garage right now so that's why it is coming first.

Well, isn't that convenient... I just bought a Kawi SS not long ago, to put the 750 into the X2 hull that's just been collecting dust.
 
33BE13F1-9EB1-4014-AE9E-8EAC3B06ACEA.jpeg 4E6BAFE8-5D9F-4350-996E-EBCD6A68C2D0.jpeg This is for yamanube or anyone that has used his 701 port templates. What do you do to finish up after I did the cutting in the transfer? Do I file it to a taper or just leave as is or what is the finishing step? Photos would be best, here is where I am at now.
 

yamanube

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I like to round all the edges and put a bit of a chamfer on the inside face to make installing the piston a little easier.

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Awesome, thanks. I’m going to do that today and get it in to be bored out this week. Ride report will be a long time away, still building a hill for this motor. Thanks again for the templates and the customer service!
 

yamanube

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I get at least two emails a month asking if I still sell these, I do, if I ever decide to stop it will be posted in this thread.
 

yamanube

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Need to finish those kawa 650 templates :p
I might be closer to 750 templates than 650.

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I have a waveraider 62t cylinder (the thick one) I am thinking about punching out to 83.5mm. If I use this template will it be just like a 61x that uses the template? I know the 62t has less than ideal porting for our application however I assume this port template can correct that. Also are the 760 templates different than the 701 templates or is it just the 650 template that is different?

Thanks in advance.
 

yamanube

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I have a waveraider 62t cylinder (the thick one) I am thinking about punching out to 83.5mm. If I use this template will it be just like a 61x that uses the template? I know the 62t has less than ideal porting for our application however I assume this port template can correct that. Also are the 760 templates different than the 701 templates or is it just the 650 template that is different?

Thanks in advance.
You cannot "correct" the 62t port timing to match the 61x timing without cutting the bottom of the cylinder but the 62T port timing is good, I personally like it better and my template matches the 62T exhaust port height. I have one template for 701 & 760 and a separate one for the 650.
 

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You cannot "correct" the 62t port timing to match the 61x timing without cutting the bottom of the cylinder but the 62T port timing is good, I personally like it better and my template matches the 62T exhaust port height. I have one template for 701 & 760 and a separate one for the 650.

Awesome, thanks for the response. What is so wrong with starting with a 62t cylinder in most peoples minds and porting it? What do you gain/lose? I was under the impression the 62t is more mid/top while the 61x was more low/mid. I am a rec rider for now however I want to keep my options open when I build the motor.

I know I want more power out of the ski and the next step is displacement and porting. Currently its a 62t/61x, ada head @170, Coffman sizzler, Concord big hub 9/15, worx 205. I feel like it needs a bit more midrange brapp and at least as much bottom end as I currently have, more top end would be nice but not what im after.

I have more time than money so I dont mind trying to port it myself. My local shop will bore the cylinders for 80 a hole and that seems fair. I guess my question is would I be better off using my 61x cylinder and porting that or the beefier raider 62t cylinder that has more cylinder wall?

Thanks for your help.
 

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Awesome, thanks for the response. What is so wrong with starting with a 62t cylinder in most peoples minds and porting it? What do you gain/lose? I was under the impression the 62t is more mid/top while the 61x was more low/mid. I am a rec rider for now however I want to keep my options open when I build the motor.

I know I want more power out of the ski and the next step is displacement and porting. Currently its a 62t/61x, ada head @170, Coffman sizzler, Concord big hub 9/15, worx 205. I feel like it needs a bit more midrange brapp and at least as much bottom end as I currently have, more top end would be nice but not what im after.

I have more time than money so I dont mind trying to port it myself. My local shop will bore the cylinders for 80 a hole and that seems fair. I guess my question is would I be better off using my 61x cylinder and porting that or the beefier raider 62t cylinder that has more cylinder wall?

Thanks for your help.

If you are looking to ditch the 61x cylinders I would port them first as practice .
 

yamanube

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Awesome, thanks for the response. What is so wrong with starting with a 62t cylinder in most peoples minds and porting it? What do you gain/lose? I was under the impression the 62t is more mid/top while the 61x was more low/mid. I am a rec rider for now however I want to keep my options open when I build the motor.

I know I want more power out of the ski and the next step is displacement and porting. Currently its a 62t/61x, ada head @170, Coffman sizzler, Concord big hub 9/15, worx 205. I feel like it needs a bit more midrange brapp and at least as much bottom end as I currently have, more top end would be nice but not what im after.

I have more time than money so I dont mind trying to port it myself. My local shop will bore the cylinders for 80 a hole and that seems fair. I guess my question is would I be better off using my 61x cylinder and porting that or the beefier raider 62t cylinder that has more cylinder wall?

Thanks for your help.
I think the 61x vs 62t cylinder debate has kind of died off in the past few years as everybody has come to the realization that neither option is really a true FREESTYLE setup as it was once considered and most people that have dedicated freestyle machines are using aftermarket cylinders and/or stroker cranks. Really what most people want/need (at least most people who are porting their own cylinder) is an overall increase in performance and likely spend most of their time in the "midrange". Most people aren't doing off-idle tricks with stock cylinder engines so where the 61x cylinder feels quite snappy down low, it starts to sign off up top and the 62t cylinder really runs pretty well throughout. The 62T cylinder also has better transfer and boost port matching from the factory which is a big plus for the DIY person that doesn't have the tools or knowledge to modify their transfer ports. If you ride a superjet or a blaster, you aren't flatwater flipping and generally you are jumping and riding and spend a lot of time on plane. If you have an aftermarket, light hull, the slight loss in low end power you might see with the 62T cylinder is negated by the lower overall weight.
The honest truth is you are likely being held back by the Sizzler exhaust, porting either cylinder will make a noticeable difference, adding a better exhaust system to it will be better still.
This is all just my two cents, I am not a professional engine builder or any kind of two stroke guru. Just a DIY and tuning enthusiast that has put in some time researching, reading, studying other peoples work and took all of that info and designed my templates around it. These where 100% drawn by me, not traced, not modified from, drawn by me in AutoCAD, tested on my own setups and then released here. So far I have only had positive feedback, but am 100% open to all feedback and encourage it (positive or negative).
 

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The honest truth is you are likely being held back by the Sizzler exhaust, porting either cylinder will make a noticeable difference, adding a better exhaust system to it will be better still.

Thanks for the explanation, it makes a lot more sense to me now. About the Sizzler, so far its working fine and has decent feedback from most, im sure its not as good as a bpipe but its got pretty good bottom end from what I understand, I have no frame of reference however as I have only ridden this superjet with this configuration but it spanks the crap out of my well tuned 650sx. I dried it out a lot and it really livened it up a bit in the midrange and up top without sacrificing much down low. What is your issue with the Coffman? It came with the ski for 500 bucks total, granted I had to rebuild everything, but it was a hell of a jump start.

Thank you for your feedback and I am going to start studying up on porting, looks like I have a winter project.
 
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