Freestyle Ada head not sealing

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Ya know, watching this thread has been fairly entertaining, but really.??.

Pull that darn jug with Head and ex man attachced. Plug all cooling lines but one, spray soapy water everywhere, including the combustion chamber. Put a little compressed air to the open cooling line, and giess what?
You just found your issue, and can acurately remedy it! Jeesh! Keyboard Cowboys!!
 

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Sleeves are not level with deck. Going to have to have the cylinders decked.

Make sure to check the squish after decking and reinstalling the head. Depending on how much is decked and how correct the squish was before, you may have a new issue.

If too tight afterward, then you will need a thicker base gasket to correct it or domes recut. Base gasket will be easier. We have them from stock 0.020” up to 0.060” if needed.
 

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Make sure to check the squish after decking and reinstalling the head. Depending on how much is decked and how correct the squish was before, you may have a new issue.

If too tight afterward, then you will need a thicker base gasket to correct it or domes recut. Base gasket will be easier. We have them from stock 0.020” up to 0.060” if needed.


Sorry, poor recomendation is suggesting to alter port timng by selling base gaslets as easy!
Your changing port timing and very possibly adversely altering engine performance, Bad call!
Recomending correct squish is commendable, this is a custom engine.
Cut dome correctly is the right way to go.
 
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Sorry, poor recomendation is suggesting to alter port timng by selling base gaslets as easy!
Your changing port timing and very possibly adversely altering engine performance, Bad call!
Recomending correct squish is commendable, this is a custom engine.
Cut dome correctly is the right way to go.

Might not be the best way but it's probably more practical than sending your motor off and ending your season early.
 

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The problem with most forum membership these days is giving poor information.
You sir are good at contibuting to that mindset. As one of the owners of this site, im tired of seeing that happen
Here. If I see bad info being passed, I will most certainly call you out on it. If your in the game of representing this sport, give valid information. Period!
 
The problem with most forum membership these days is giving poor information.
You sir are good at contibuting to that mindset. As one of the owners of this site, im tired of seeing that happen
Here. If I see bad info being passed, I will most certainly call you out on it. If your in the game of representing this sport, give valid information. Period!

What's so bad about a slightly higher port timing? It may soften the hit a tad, yes, but to say this is bad info I don't know man. Sounds like a power Trip to me in your case.
 

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What's so bad about a slightly higher port timing? It may soften the hit a tad, yes, but to say this is bad info I don't know man. Sounds like a power Trip to me in your case.

There is techincally correct and there is practical correct. Changing base gasket is easy and practical. Machining domes is the actual correct way to do it. Both will get the person riding again, its a matter of what someone wants from the setup.
 

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No power trip here, but I do have respect for the builder that pulled the number to make the OP motor.
You are a key board jockey with zero first hand knowlage, trying to make an invalid point.
To me, you cant comand any clout in giving positive recomandation to this doscussion .
Please feel free to take your comments to FB
 
No power trip here, but I do have respect for the builder that pulled the number to make the OP motor.
You are a key board jockey with zero first hand knowlage, trying to make an invalid point.
To me, you cant comand any clout in giving positive recomandation to this doscussion .
Please feel free to take your comments to FB

Zero first hand knowledge? Lol. Have a nice day big dog.
 

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Cowboys like you are a reason good information sites like the X loose membership every day.
I suggest you sit back and learn, rather than pass crap knowlage. Your bad info, cost good people good money by bad recomedations and blown motors! If you dont get it? Dont give it!
 
Cowboys like you are a reason good information sites like the X loose membership every day.
I suggest you sit back and learn, rather than pass crap knowlage. Your bad info, cost good people good money by bad recomedations and blown motors! If you dont get it? Dont give it!

Please tell me how a safe distance between the dome and the piston is going to cost someone a motor.
 

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Really? Your trying to change this up to save face? Please answer your own question ?
Im very curious of your answer?
 
Really? Your trying to change this up to save face? Please answer your own question ?
Im very curious of your answer?

Nah man, I am asking you how my specific advice would cost someone a motor. Which was using using a thicker gasket to achieve no less than 045 squish which is an accepted safe limit.

Decking the cyl and not having adequate squish, that would cost you a motor.
 

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Nah man, I am asking you how my specific advice would cost someone a motor. Which was using using a thicker gasket to achieve no less than 045 squish which is an accepted safe limit.

Decking the cyl and not having adequate squish, that would cost you a motor.

Your proving your lack of knowlage and inability to read what was posted. I stated to cut domes, Not alter designed port timing. Again, if you dont get it, dont give bad information
 

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Sorry, poor recomendation is suggesting to alter port timng by selling base gaslets as easy!
Your changing port timing and very possibly adversely altering engine performance, Bad call!
Recomending correct squish is commendable, this is a custom engine.
Cut dome correctly is the right way to go.

I was trying to possibly save him from a blown motor by mentioning the squish. Cutting the dome is the way to go to restore it to its original condition and porting but this assumes it was set up correctly to begin with. I did not read every post, but did see the screenshot where it mentions multiple base gaskets stacked, etc. I would guess the that the domes were not modded and cut correctly to start with.
 
Your proving your lack of knowlage and inability to read what was posted. I stated to cut domes, Not alter designed port timing. Again, if you dont get it, dont give bad information
I know exactly what you said. I just had custom domes made this year. Yes you would get ideal results with custom cut domes and the "stock" base gasket intended by the engine builder, 020 for stock Yamaha. Using a thicker gasket will change then port timing. Which you said was bad info and proceeded to call me out on, feebily. This would not harm the engine near as much as too little squish which would have happened potentially from decking cylinder. I think you just misinterpreted my prior posts.
 
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I was trying to possibly save him from a blown motor by mentioning the squish. Cutting the dome is the way to go to restore it to its original condition and porting but this assumes it was set up correctly to begin with. I did not read every post, but did see the screenshot where it mentions multiple base gaskets stacked, etc. I would guess the that the domes were not modded and cut correctly to start with.

Chris, with all due respect, the motor builder is unknown at this point. To build a superbore, is not an easy task.
Im , as you assuming he knows whats up? Thats said, its foolish for any of us to suggest altering port design by changing gasket thickness / port timing as an easy way out. Only novices do that!

To the OP of this thread, I appoligize for the derailment of your thread. I can only hope for the light this has shed to positive information being spread in our community.
 

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I know exactly what you said. I just had custom dkmes made this year. Yes you would get ideal results with custom cut domes and the "stock" base gasket intended engine builder, 020 for stock Yamaha. Using a thicker gasket will change then port timing. Which you said was bad info and proceedws to call me out on, feebily. This would not harm the engine near as much as too little squixb which would have happened potentially from decking cylinder. I think you just misinterpreted my prior posts.

What I see is you rethinking your previous mistakes and learning from them. Any builder designs for optimum output.
Any change to that design is altering its capibilities? So suggising that change is a bad call on your part.
Just making you rethink what your suggesting? And understanding the consiquense of altering any motor design.
Is a step in the right direction. In order to advance, you have to try things? Some positive, most negative.
However, pushing a mindset that has poor merit is bad. The overall point that im trying to make in all of this is give solid advive. There are many newbies reading and take these messages as gospil. They dont know good from bad.
Understand the consiquence your poor advise has on others, is their reality. Think about it?
 
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