Try not to cry
Freestyle Ada head not sealing
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Try not to cry
"hope the motor can react"
It has no choice, that's what I meant by it doesn't know what filters on it. You run different inlet you get different results, however subtle it may be. Said yourself the air speed would change.
What works for me may not for you
It has no choice, that's what I meant by it doesn't know what filters on it. You run different inlet you get different results, however subtle it may be. Said yourself the air speed would change.
What works for me may not for you
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Here is the differance, a properly built and tuned motor will run perfect at optimum performance. That is what I strive to do. An Amature like yourself with your way of thinking will only ever be good enough. This discussion makes me feel like im back in my first day of class in motor building 101
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Dude, it's not you, either. I just dropped a plow blade on my little piggies. I may have broken my damn foot.
Anyway, discussions like this are good for everyone involved. If we can all not get offended, and talk it over like adults, we can all take something good from it. Think about what you know... Some from your own experience, but if you're like me, (and I can do A LOT of different stuff), you learn by asking and watching, and listening, to others that have been there, done that. Then you can take what you know, add it to what they know, and BOOM!
SO smile! AT least you're not scared to take your shoe off and see if your toes are still attached.
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I read from that is the motor performs perfectly as it is suppose to. Strong throttle response, strong pull through the power band. Peak RPM is good. Keep in mind each motor is designed for specific purpose. It could be Flat Water Freestyle, Surf Riding, or just ripping up the lake. But the motor should not have any deficiencies. Example. Where it was mentioned to add an extra base gasket to give proper piston clearance. This would raise porting timing. Now, if you did this to a 61x cylinder, it might not make much change, give it a little more top end. Now if you did this to a 62T cylinder that say had already been ported. Raising it could kill some of the bottom end. (same for a 61x). Now say same T cylinder was race ported, as in port height was already raised but ran good, not you raised it some more. At this point it may be enough that this has really effected what bottom end it had, it may cause other issues with the higher port timing effecting peak rpm and horsepower. It can also effect the overall timing of the charge igniting. Would this have solved his problem, Yes and no, it would have given more clearance, but it would have taken away from the original design of the motor and how port timing was setup it. Correct way would be cut the domes. Jr's point is if your going to do something. Do it right........
Well we agreed domes would be the right way. However by the sound of it that motor was already using thick gaskets, who knows it may not have been set up right initially. I/others were simply reminding the owner to operate at his own discretion and consider options. And if the piston poked out really far into the new domes, I don't know that might cause issues as well.
Machining domes, From what I have been told by a reputable builder, is typically done with traditional machining, there can be variences. You still need to confirm your squish band afterwards. And you may end up still needing a ,030 gasket instead of 020 for example. I don't think most riders would notice any difference that small
Machining domes, From what I have been told by a reputable builder, is typically done with traditional machining, there can be variences. You still need to confirm your squish band afterwards. And you may end up still needing a ,030 gasket instead of 020 for example. I don't think most riders would notice any difference that small
Real world testing. I build and tune personally. Then I hand it to a group of racers I support. They give feedback to what they need. At Hartwell I had 5-6 motors on the line in anything from spec to GP. Made 4 Podiums. Same for Charleston the following weekend.
How do you test yours??
Lets do this, there are a series of Freerides coming up Pick one
Put your best foot forward. Ill bring a couple. Ill ride yours, you ride mine?
How do you test yours??
Lets do this, there are a series of Freerides coming up Pick one
Put your best foot forward. Ill bring a couple. Ill ride yours, you ride mine?
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Im just going to leave this here...
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Tach
Accel time.
Race results.
My best numbers are
48mph
7300 rpm
0-30 1.3 seconds
Two podium finishes.
I have no doubt you could do something better than me. We probably wouldnt have comparable set ups anyway, this year was research and development for me as I have changed to a dry pipe and I hadn't really messed with one much before. Friendly competition is fine though I would entertain that notion.
Tach
Accel time.
Race results.
My best numbers are
48mph
7300 rpm
0-30 1.3 seconds
Two podium finishes.
I have no doubt you could do something better than me. We probably wouldnt have comparable set ups anyway, this year was research and development for me as I have changed to a dry pipe and I hadn't really messed with one much before. Friendly competition is fine though I would entertain that notion.
Easy there toots. Lol
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48mph with a drypipe?????? I have a stock class SXR that I have been fighting with jetting that is going 47.6 (This is a salvage ski rebuild from scrap parts). I hope to god that is a typo.
No that was a bpipe and it was under propped
Didn't read it thru. My set up was for all acceleration
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not enough info given to tell anybody anything.
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And for the record I'm not claiming I ever had it at 100%
I'm a nobody! You guys are the veterans
I have never lost my cool here, but I've seen a lot of name calling from the vets! Let's see: you've called me a "keyboard cowboy" an "idiot" a "snowflake". Good job team! Only took what 4 of you to cobble together a cool kids club against me? Be reasonable.
I've got nothing personally against any of you. It's about the passion the drives us.
I'm a nobody! You guys are the veterans
I have never lost my cool here, but I've seen a lot of name calling from the vets! Let's see: you've called me a "keyboard cowboy" an "idiot" a "snowflake". Good job team! Only took what 4 of you to cobble together a cool kids club against me? Be reasonable.
I've got nothing personally against any of you. It's about the passion the drives us.
Big Kahuna
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If you knew how many times I have called Paul asking about doing something and he just shook his head or even called me out!!!!!!!!!!!! I can promise you. He is wanting you to succeed and learn.....
Just sit back and learn, Help when you can help. Come to freerides and hang out....... You might even see "how many does it take to swap out a battery!!!!!!" @McDog
Just sit back and learn, Help when you can help. Come to freerides and hang out....... You might even see "how many does it take to swap out a battery!!!!!!" @McDog
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