It is a combination of several factors that make the cylinder work not just a singular entity, just like in all good running boats. Its the guys on top who have not the best parts, but have the best combination. Once its out there will be much discussion as to why, what and how. I am very interested in what it will do when its in the hands of some of the best tuners out there.
Freestyle Affordable Power......... It's COMING
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Exactly... He pretty much said that he's not going to post pictures. Pictures will turn up eventually when they hit the market and someone buys a top-end kit. I was told "that's where some of the magic is".
YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK - THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH ROOM THERE. But these guys have found a way (are finding a way?) to make it work. The proof will be in riding one - plain and simple. NOTHING ELSE will prove anything about how they will run. Pictures of the transfers are gonna tell you squat about how it runs... About as good as a video does - NOTHING!
And since I brought up video... [rant] Why the hell do people want video of an ENGINE??? It proves nothing, except that it makes a spark, compresses and burns fuel! Too many variables to say what kind of power it's making. Can you feel the power in a video on the interwebs???? Does it "sound" good??? Gonna have to wait to ride one or take these guys' word that they perform as well as promised. Either wait and ride, or take an educated chance (gamble?) on something new based on their testing and experience.[/rant]
I don't feel that posting a vid of the engine/boat running will prove anything. You could let me rid ROK's ski and all it would prove is than I can idle it through a no-wake zone, maybe. There are those out there who could backflip a 2X4 powered by a weedeater engine. The only thing that will matter is when you try it.
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^^^^^ i like his way of thinking.......
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um wtf? because it takes literally NO effort to post up a quick video mabey? or it would be cool to hear and see one ripping around in a ski? mabey because i cant teleport to virginia right now to ride one?
did i mention taking a video is pretty easy? you act like it would take up a days worth of erics time to do this..
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^^ Yea a picture of the bottom of the cylinder cant hurt sales too. right? lol
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Who makes 95mm pistons?
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Sleeves are part of the casting and nikasil plated, no need for steel pressed in sleeves.
Weisco makes 95 mil pistons.
Weisco makes 95 mil pistons.
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Knowing my luck, you're being sarcastic. But if not, all your answers are in the thread. As others have told me, "Read Grasshopper"
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If there are no sleeves and the sleeves are built into the cylinder and you break a rod or something happens where you brake the built in sleeve, your out a whole cylinder. Doesn't sound cheaper in my opinion.
Hope this helps.
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If a cylinder is allready coated with nikasil. As long as you don't scratch the bore can the ports be changed? Or does the chamfer on the ports have to be nickasil coated also?
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GP800, GP1200, GP1300 and Polaris Pro 785 cylinders were all set up like this from the factory for years - no sleeve, casted then nikasiled. Seemed to work OK for them.
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The gp800 had individual cylinders and i think the others did too because of the price is less to buy on than all of them in one.
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The cylinder works, nikasil is nothing new, the ideas behind this cylinder have been in other 2 stroke platforms for years. Anything can break, and if you do throw a crank, is it the cylinders fault if it breaks? I've seen sleeved cylinders get cut in half by a bad blow up of a crank. Again, not the cylinder's fault.
The idea behind this cylinder was to produce a product that makes great power at a better prince point than what is currently on the market. The VAST majority of the people who will buy this cylinder set up would rather have the design the way it is and produce the power it does, than have it designed to work with sleeves and produce less.
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The idea behind this cylinder was to produce a product that makes great power at a better prince point than what is currently on the market. The VAST majority of the people who will buy this cylinder set up would rather have the design the way it is and produce the power it does, than have it designed to work with sleeves and produce less.
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good point... my 1300's got individuals, but having said that you can get over 200 hours out of a top end on my 1300 thats with 170 hp, thats with an extra cylinder of course.
If you throw a rod then there is nothing stopping you putting custom sleeves in its place for future repairs , been done many times before on bikes. like scotty said nikasil is not new.
If you throw a rod then there is nothing stopping you putting custom sleeves in its place for future repairs , been done many times before on bikes. like scotty said nikasil is not new.
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