Beach cart ramp project

[seatsR4toilets]

Yes I figured cart width and one person as the total width.
I think penguin is drawing something up.

After thinking about the ramp... It can be made two ways.

Made from scrap and will look thrown together, will work, a nd will need partial donation money for material

Made from new material and will look good and last for many years, but will need full donation money for material.

Seats, let me know what you wanna do.

I'll commit to $20 for whoever want's to do it.

Plus, I'm thinking, that even if we switch hotels, they all have a seawall and wherever we are they are still gonna make us remove the skis from the beach, so it's not like we won't use it regardless of what hotel hosts us in the future.

 

[The Penguin]

expanded metal is sold in 4x8 or 5x10 sizes - so it would be most beneficial to make it one of those sizes

 

[seatsR4toilets]

whats the price difference?

And clue me in: what is "expanded metal"?

 

[The Penguin]

expanded metal is the mesh grate surface what we've been walking on.

5x10 - $62.10
4x8 - $39.74

 

[seatsR4toilets]

For a lousy $62, let's go with the 5'x10'.

 

[tipafew]

I can't really think of a better material than the expanded metal, but my friend ripped the bottom of his feet open on that stuff a few years ago.. It was nasty! It's hard to find something that has traction on wet/sandy feet but won't tear you up. I saw a guy fall on it and get pretty scraped up too.

 

[QuickMick]

will need some 1/4" X 1/4" square bar, or something of the like to be welded to the top of the expanded metal for shoe traction.

 

[QuickMick]

I can't really think of a better material than the expanded metal, but my friend ripped the bottom of his feet open on that stuff a few years ago.. It was nasty! It's hard to find something that has traction on wet/sandy feet but won't tear you up. I saw a guy fall on it and get pretty scraped up too.

yes thats what the current one is made of. Maybe a ve 5-1/4 board bolted in the center with the sandpaper tape glued on top. We have some of that sandpaper traction tape here at work but I think someone stole it, if not i will tear off some.
Or Epoxy with sand in it might work.

 

[yamaslut]

the top of the ledge at the Makai is 16"

 

[seatsR4toilets]

I think just stay with the expanded metal.
Guys just have to wear shoes, IMO.
If we don't use expanded metal, and then you can't get traction with wet, sandy shoes, then we might as well have not built the new ramp at all. I'm more concerned about slipping and falling, then not slipping and just flat out falling on the grating. (does that make sense to anyone but me?)
Just MHO, for whatever that's worth.

 

[QuickMick]

Revision 1?

 

[The Penguin]

I don't see the need to go completely over to the back side of the wall cap - that's just going to take more steel to accomplish - and what are you going to spike into?

If you really wanted to anchor it that way - let's get 2 pieces of #8 rebar, hammer them into the ground at the top, and just tie the ramp to them...of course, we'll have to hope that nobody trips on them...and we have to get them out.

the old ramp did a pretty decent job of staying in place. I think with a larger lip top and bottom - it's not going anywhere.

That's why I said to put the long leg down into the sand at the base - so it will act as an anchor to help keep it from sliding outward.

 

[seatsR4toilets]

I think both ways sound fine.
I do like the idea of it coming around over the top of the top cap on the sea wall, reason being that at the bottom you have the issue of the ramp sinking in the sand, and nothing to stop the top from slipping off of the edge.
Is the cost to add those two pieces to the top gonna be significant?

 

[The Penguin]

to get a preformed piece in that size - yes (and it will be very heavy) If we can scrounge some plate steel, it could be done - but would involve more welding, and it would still be heavy.

Mick, thoughts? other welders thoughts?

 

[seatsR4toilets]

Got it.
You guys decide. Your more experts than I am.
But keep in mind, IMO, one of the things that made it unsafe in the first place was the fact that it could have slipped down off of the seawall at any moment because it didn't extend up onto the wall far enough.
Again, just my opinion, but I'm not a steel guy or a welder, so I'll just stand back and keep my mouth shut (lol)

 

[The Penguin]

I think the current ramp only has 2"x2" L shapes on each end, so anything larger is going to be a vast improvement.

 

[QuickMick]

to get a preformed piece in that size - yes (and it will be very heavy) If we can scrounge some plate steel, it could be done - but would involve more welding, and it would still be heavy.

Mick, thoughts? other welders thoughts?

the pieces that go over the wall the spikes will go through are only 2"x1/4" flat bar welded out on each corner of the top portion. get it?

there was also a revision on the new name for the pump company. I guess you guys missed that one. haha

 

[The Penguin]

if we're gonna do that - let's go 4" or 6" wide, and 6" down the backside as well.

yes, I saw the revision - I'm sure my supplier will just love that. LOL

 

[tipafew]

I never really noticed the existing ramp moving. I think the big thing is just a little more length to help the angle.

 

[QuickMick]

I never really noticed the existing ramp moving. I think the big thing is just a little more length to help the angle.

Oh yea it did. Actually we had to rest the top of it on the corner of the wall. When you went to hit it going down hill the ramp kept moving back and would eventually slide down the wall.