Custom/Hybrid Gen2 BOB build... Finally...

Twinturbostang

Twinturbostang

Location
CT
DK-Freestyle said:
Funny... over 100 hulls produced and sold, and the only one that's 'having issues' is being assembled by just another BOB-hater.
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First off I'm not a BOB hater if anything I like that you guys are bringing a hull to the market at this price point.

And look back and read this tread alone it's not the only one having problems. There are what 5 other guys saying that their skis were also 40pounds heavier than ordered. One guy saying 140lbs (that's a big bit(h)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to defend a product but when number are right in front of you like this how can you call me a hater and think that will make you look good? I'm not a hater I'm just a fact teller.
 
XJCrawler

XJCrawler

Location
Edmonton, AB
Twinturbostang said:
Im more than sure Art will tell you 3/8s id.

You could take every inch of this ski apart and sand blaster the paint off it and it won't be 85pounds.

These numbers don't lie why is everyone fighting the numbers?
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because being a little undersized is really going to affect anything on a dual cooled ski. Your really starting to come off petty in this thread. What was wrong about the numbers I posted?
 
DK-Freestyle

DK-Freestyle

2011 World Champion
Location
Oakley, CA
Twinturbostang said:
First off I'm not a BOB hater if anything I like that you guys are bringing a hull to the market at this price point.

And look back and read this tread alone it's not the only one having problems. There are what 5 other guys saying that their skis were also 40pounds heavier than ordered. One guy saying 140lbs (that's a big bit(h)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to defend a product but when number are right in front of you like this how can you call me a hater and think that will make you look good? I'm not a hater I'm just a fact teller.
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Read the numbers on posts #78 & #79.

Every standard hull we produce is around the 85lbs mark.

Our hulls come with many add-on parts that no other hull does, which makes our shipping weight higher than anyone else's. We include turf, pump shoe, ride plate, hood seal, etc. all FREE with our hulls, where any other manufacture would charge HUNDREDS for those. Those little things add weight, which is what you're seeing. The Action Extreme guys requested "bullet proof" surf hulls. We were told don't even worry about the weight, make them strong... and we did. Granted it came out to 140lbs, but they're strong.
 
Twinturbostang

Twinturbostang

Location
CT
XJCrawler said:
because being a little undersized is really going to affect anything on a dual cooled ski. Your really starting to come off petty in this thread. What was wrong about the numbers I posted?
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But why go undersized was the question. Why not just normal 3/8s like every stock hull in the world. All an undersized line does is hold pressure back. And make hoses no hold as nice.

So you go and buy a new car they tell you a V8 you get home it's a V6 and they say don't worrie about it it still gets from point a to point b.
 
Twinturbostang

Twinturbostang

Location
CT
This is not "around the 85 mark" it's 117

Again it's not my ski, Chris seems to be ok with taking 32pounds right in the a$$. If it was my ski it would be right back on your door step. Or I would want some money back or somthing. You didn't hold up your side of the the sales agreement. End of store. And it's false advertising saying you make a 80 pound hull when even an unglued shell isn't 80pounds.

And little D you said when the weights wre first posted you "would make it right" you guys made it right alright. You made it right for you as the seller. You told the customer they had to deal with it and it is what it is.

What happened to the customers always right?

Maybe ski clinic should invest in a scale and a micrometer
 
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ChrisFiore15

Location
Trumbull CT
Lets be real here.
Yes, the cooling hoses are a tad smaller then normal, not a huge deal to anyone.
Yes, the pump duct stuck out a bit, small mod, thanks again mark.
Yes, the weight of the hull was a bit more then anyone expected, and I have had a LOT of others PM me and such asking about weight issues with BOB hulls, but after laying out the numbers, and then I personally called the people who called me regarding weight issues and them being worried etc, and explained what Derrick Explained to me, And now the site is being updated to be CLEAR as a crystal regarding hull weight information so that this never happens again...

Hull is a bit heaver then expected, but its because of all the "add ons" on it, It is what it is I guess. No worries on my end about that.

The Ski Clinic has been awesome this whole time about this, and I am glad this weight issue came up, so that no one else who was less understanding will have the same shock when throwing on a scale and what not.

If others would like to chat about weight and finish of BOB hulls, here is a great thread to do so on! =D
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/105791-Bob-Gen-2-an-honest-review&highlight=Gen2+BOB
That would be a wonderful place for it!
Problem solved. Everyone play nice ;)
 
DK-Freestyle

DK-Freestyle

2011 World Champion
Location
Oakley, CA
Twinturbostang said:
This is not "around the 85 mark" it's 117
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Twinturbostang said:
These numbers don't lie why is everyone fighting the numbers?
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How Ironic..
There's this thing called "Reading"... it's supposed to be good for you.

Standard Hull: 85-90lbs hand laid glass
Standard Hood (with seal): 8lbs
Ride Plate w/ hardware: 1lbs
Footpods, adjuster plates & hardware: 4.5lbs
Full ski turf, underpadding & glue: 6lbs
Bow eyes, hood catch and versa plug: 2lbs
Opt. Reinforcemnts: 5lbs
Stock tank pod: 1.5lbs
Total so far: 114 - 119lbs (give or take a couple pounds)

If you take off all the add-ons that we include for free that anyone else would charge you for (hood seal, ride plate & hardware, turf, bow eyes, hood catch, gas tank pods, etc.), you would be at that 85lbs point. All the add-ons are stuff that isn't included with a SuperFreak, XFS, EME, etc. Which is why their hull weights are 'lower' than ours. Because their hulls are shipped almost bare, ours are not.
 
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Twinturbostang

Twinturbostang

Location
CT
Tank pod is a bad a$$ part first thing I said when I saw the ski. And the bob hold are so much smarter than the Rickter ones. I cut the :):):):) out of my Rickter holds to make them the way I wanted. And I had a few choice things to say about the Rickter hulls.

Dont get me wrong Little D I'm not knocking the bob I'm just posting what I see in front of me.
 
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ChrisFiore15

Location
Trumbull CT
I think BOB 2 has a naked date(Strip her down bare bones, so literally it will be a hull and turf(im not de turfing this thing)) with a scale in the near future...
We will see what it says.
 
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DK-Freestyle

DK-Freestyle

2011 World Champion
Location
Oakley, CA
Every hull needs a pump shoe, they need turf, etc. We include that stuff with our hulls, but not in the hull weight.
We quote our hull weights at about 85lbs. SuperFreak quotes their hulls at xxlbs, RRP quotes their hulls at xxlbs.. those numbers are for the bare hulls, not the shipping weights.

We can make a complete hull with turf and everything at the 85lbs mark... but it's going to break. Or hull are made with certain reinforcements that we found they need, and at the end of the day, the hull is 85lbs, exactly as quoted to the customer. I'm not sure how you're not understanding it, I've explained it many times.

If I can get my hands on a bare hull this week, I'll throw it on the scale to show the numbers. We aren't making stuff up, and i'll do what I can to prove it.
 
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Str8huckin

Str8huckin

Location
Lodi
Twinturbostang said:
First off I'm not a BOB hater if anything I like that you guys are bringing a hull to the market at this price point.

And look back and read this tread alone it's not the only one having problems. There are what 5 other guys saying that their skis were also 40pounds heavier than ordered. One guy saying 140lbs (that's a big bit(h)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to defend a product but when number are right in front of you like this how can you call me a hater and think that will make you look good? I'm not a hater I'm just a fact teller.
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Sure sound like a hater. Lets see you compared a 9000$ bare carbon hull to a ready to build 4000$ Fiberglass hull. Then you just ignore the weights posted and keep going on about how heavy it is. If you add it up it's within ten pounds of the advertised weight AT LEAST. Just let it go man, you come off like you've got an axe to grind. Just like you said the numbers don't lie, all the little stuff adds up.
 
Twinturbostang

Twinturbostang

Location
CT
Str8huckin said:
Sure sound like a hater. Lets see you compared a 9000$ bare carbon hull to a ready to build 4000$ Fiberglass hull. Then you just ignore the weights posted and keep going on about how heavy it is. If you add it up it's within ten pounds of the advertised weight AT LEAST. Just let it go man, you come off like you've got an axe to grind. Just like you said the numbers don't lie, all the little stuff adds up.
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I wasn't comparing it to the freak. That freak was twice the price but also a 3rd the weight.
I would compare it to a xfr if anything
Im not ignoring the weights. We pulled the foot holds off and weighed a roll of turf and the other parts and those numbers little D posted are on the high side.

No axe to grind, I just have the ski in front of me and a scale and the numbers don't jive as well as little D is making them look.

Its not for me to let go its for Chris to live with and he is.
 
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Tommygunz

Tommygunz

Team PHP
Location
Wisconsin
DK-Freestyle said:
Read the numbers on posts #78 & #79.

Every standard hull we produce is around the 85lbs mark.

Our hulls come with many add-on parts that no other hull does, which makes our shipping weight higher than anyone else's. We include turf, pump shoe, ride plate, hood seal, etc. all FREE with our hulls, where any other manufacture would charge HUNDREDS for those. Those little things add weight, which is what you're seeing. The Action Extreme guys requested "bullet proof" surf hulls. We were told don't even worry about the weight, make them strong... and we did. Granted it came out to 140lbs, but they're strong.
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We never did express any concern in weight when we ordered our hulls and were very adamant about making them bulletproof (which they did a great job of doing)! I'm happier knowing my hull will withstand any abuse it gets!!! And Big D has been a great guy to work with!
 
jetpilot08

jetpilot08

Location
Kennewick, WA
Just install one these. Weight won't be a problem but putting your arms back in your sockets might be.

Thrust/Dasa 12-16 1100cc shortblock

This all billet monster 1100cc producing amazing power for those looking to get the most power out there . We also have full tuned engine setups available for this engine package as well as other platforms

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ridetrp

Location
nj
DK-Freestyle said:
Funny... over 100 hulls produced and sold, and the only one that's 'having issues' is being assembled by just another BOB-hater.
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or maybe this ones being assembled by someone who knows what theyre doing. also was the mold release wiped off this hull,looks to have the same finish as the orange one
 
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