Krashindustries.com is selling 997cc RTR Skis for $12,000.00

[emcfetr1]

We would absolutely love to offer packages like this I wish we could get our hands on cheaper engines,pumps,electronics with unicorn gypsy switches and make it all run on 3 types of bubble gum . The fact of the matter is you can't always get what you want. We've worked hard to develope a solid name with our products and not cut corners. I could use cheaper glass or resin and cut the price of every unit but why? This is a hobby sport in a niche market,you get what you pay for. I'll stick to building Porsches and I'll see you at the ramp with your prius.

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Ridetrp just FYI my post was in no way talking negative about your skis which I didn't feel it came off that way and I'm surprised at your response honestly . My post was stating that your skis were better quality and I would prefer one and only am grabbing one of these deals bc I couldn't duplicate it with a tigercraft for the price and am rolling the dice that krash upped their game . I prefer the sv1 hull over the v2 bigtime and if there was a fixed steer hood for a sv1 it wouldn't even be a question that's what I would build regardless of money. Yes you have the viper which are great but a little too close to a blaster for aftermarket hull money for me . Hence why I ordered a reaper . Again it all comes down to what I personally am looking for . I have motors and pumps sitting here for any hull but
I'm Honestly not a pole guy but fixed steer yes . So yea hope that clears that up don't know why you got all defensive about it , that's exactly what why I started getting out of the sport . Everyone talks community and diversity but then makes it all a big competition. Pure fact is I have 5 friends who have your hulls and love them but have low hp motors in them and wish they had more power but all of them are well above 10k in building their skis and that seems to be the limit for them money wise. So out of the group I'm the one going out on a limb and buying one of these deals to see what the motors are all about . I'm hoping for the best but yea it's a gamble. I don't need a 1000cc motor I have jet maniac motors I'm perfectly happy with but I'm curious so we'll see . Just wish other people would keep an open opinion until proven otherwise . If this fails I'd think it's the end of krash so I'm banking on them having their ducks in a row .

 

[x2mafia]

Ridetrp just FYI my post was in no way talking negative about your skis which I didn't feel it came off that way and I'm surprised at your response honestly . My post was stating that your skis were better quality and I would prefer one and only am grabbing one of these deals bc I couldn't duplicate it with a tigercraft for the price and am rolling the dice that krash upped their game . I prefer the sv1 hull over the v2 bigtime and if there was a fixed steer hood for a sv1 it wouldn't even be a question that's what I would build regardless of money. Yes you have the viper which are great but a little too close to a blaster for aftermarket hull money for me . Hence why I ordered a reaper . Again it all comes down to what I personally am looking for . I have motors and pumps sitting here for any hull but
I'm Honestly not a pole guy but fixed steer yes . So yea hope that clears that up don't know why you got all defensive about it , that's exactly what why I started getting out of the sport . Everyone talks community and diversity but then makes it all a big competition. Pure fact is I have 5 friends who have your hulls and love them but have low hp motors in them and wish they had more power but all of them are well above 10k in building their skis and that seems to be the limit for them money wise. So out of the group I'm the one going out on a limb and buying one of these deals to see what the motors are all about . I'm hoping for the best but yea it's a gamble. I don't need a 1000cc motor I have jet maniac motors I'm perfectly happy with but I'm curious so we'll see . Just wish other people would keep an open opinion until proven otherwise . If this fails I'd think it's the end of krash so I'm banking on them having their ducks in a row .

He didn't get defensive. He took a verbal dump on all of it.

^^^Then you got defensive... ^^^

 

[jonolove]

Ridetrp just FYI my post was in no way talking negative about your skis which I didn't feel it came off that way and I'm surprised at your response honestly . My post was stating that your skis were better quality and I would prefer one and only am grabbing one of these deals bc I couldn't duplicate it with a tigercraft for the price and am rolling the dice that krash upped their game . I prefer the sv1 hull over the v2 bigtime and if there was a fixed steer hood for a sv1 it wouldn't even be a question that's what I would build regardless of money. Yes you have the viper which are great but a little too close to a blaster for aftermarket hull money for me . Hence why I ordered a reaper . Again it all comes down to what I personally am looking for . I have motors and pumps sitting here for any hull but
I'm Honestly not a pole guy but fixed steer yes . So yea hope that clears that up don't know why you got all defensive about it , that's exactly what why I started getting out of the sport . Everyone talks community and diversity but then makes it all a big competition. Pure fact is I have 5 friends who have your hulls and love them but have low hp motors in them and wish they had more power but all of them are well above 10k in building their skis and that seems to be the limit for them money wise. So out of the group I'm the one going out on a limb and buying one of these deals to see what the motors are all about . I'm hoping for the best but yea it's a gamble. I don't need a 1000cc motor I have jet maniac motors I'm perfectly happy with but I'm curious so we'll see . Just wish other people would keep an open opinion until proven otherwise . If this fails I'd think it's the end of krash so I'm banking on them having their ducks in a row .

I hope that you get a great ski that preforms as advertised I'm not being negative towards krash and their products I'm just not the guy willing to gamble on a completely new design once proven reliable I would pick one up. Cheap upfront if expensive to fix and maintain might end up being a 18k ski after a season or two

 

[emcfetr1]

I hope that you get a great ski that preforms as advertised I'm not being negative towards krash and their products I'm just not the guy willing to gamble on a completely new design once proven reliable I would pick one up. Cheap upfront if expensive to fix and maintain might end up being a 18k ski after a season or two

I agree exactly with what your saying . People don't go to the casinos expecting to 100% win there's always a gamble and I'm taking it , just annoying seeing people trash something before it even hits water

 

[emcfetr1]

He didn't get defensive. He took a verbal dump on all of it.

^^^Then you got defensive... ^^^

Pretty positive he just called his ski a porshe and a krash a prius . Sounds pretty defensive to me as well as one builder blatantly trashing another which Speaks for itself . So much for that "jetski community" like I said .

 

[eastcoastjumper]

Pretty positive he just called his ski a porshe and a krash a prius . Sounds pretty defensive to me as well as one builder blatantly trashing another which Speaks for itself . So much for that "jetski community" like I said .

What happy go lucky reality do you live in? Do sports teams get along? Motocross racers? There's something called competition that exists. It's there for a reason. Toss around whatever analogy you want. Just because others aren't posting on this thread doesn't mean they aren't thinking the same


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[emcfetr1]

What happy go lucky reality do you live in? Do sports teams get along? Motocross racers? There's something called competition that exists. It's there for a reason. Toss around whatever analogy you want. Just because others aren't posting on this thread doesn't mean they aren't thinking the same


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Im sure there are many more thinking the same which is fine of course but obviously their a little more mature and are keeping those comments to themselves, if not for the sole reason of looking stupid if their wrong but maybe more out of just overall respect for any company trying to change the game like many have in the past in different sports. And competition is all fine and even opinions of this and that but I thought company owners/builders would of been a bit more professional instead of calling other competitors products "Prius's" . Many different people in his world . Purchasing power has nothing to do with what someone is looking for in a ski. I can drop the cash right now for 1 , 2, even 3 of your fully built tpe powered 20k builds but it's not what I'm looking for or wanting to spend on a ski. People value the sport differently and/or have less months out of the year to do it so invest different amounts. I don't expect a 12k to be a 20k ski but everyone seems to want to compare it to one .

 

[Sparkplug]

I say quit talking about it. There are 3 sides to this. The side that supports krash. The side that hates everything they do and the newbies go haven't made up their mind yet.

2 or 3 yrs from now krash is going to be laughing on a pile of money, and half the negative commenters are going to be riding one. Or using their engine with it's "unicorn gypsy switch" lmao

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[emcfetr1]

I say quit talking about it. There are 3 sides to this. The side that supports krash. The side that hates everything they do and the newbies go haven't made up their mind yet.

2 or 3 yrs from now krash is going to be laughing on a pile of money, and half the negative commenters are going to be riding one. Or using their engine with it's "unicorn gypsy switch" lmao

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Sounds good to me

 

[eastcoastjumper]

Dude a prius is a decent car!!

@emcfetr1

Yamaha can't introduce a new 2 stoke stand up in NY/CA etc due to EPA on 2 stroke. Let that sink in a second. They're the same ski for the last 20 years for a reason. It's grandfathered in.


What makes you think krash is legally going to be able to put out the same sh it? 1000cc carbureted is going to be a-s-s on any lower HP setting with a ski propped for 1000cc. It's blatant lies to appeal to naive beginner.







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[x2mafia]

The most effective way to predict the future is to look at the past... Example being the components, glass work, ect. A new motor in the old stuff is still the same old crap. Cheap doesnt mean its good...

Im with @eastcoastjumper - James i would tow my tigercraft behind a prius any day.

 

[ridetrp]

I say quit talking about it. There are 3 sides to this. The side that supports krash. The side that hates everything they do and the newbies go haven't made up their mind yet.

2 or 3 yrs from now krash is going to be laughing on a pile of money, and half the negative commenters are going to be riding one. Or using their engine with it's "unicorn gypsy switch" lmao

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I absolutely love the innovation,its what our sport needs. The design of the Krash motor has already been proven in snowmobiles and is decades old and it works. But you really think a carb 2 stroke can have all of those map settings and run efficiently? I'm assuming the prop adjust too? My problem is, if it's available for the public to purchase which I hope it is. how do you convince a guy that's been stuck on 20 year old yamaha technology and has carbs, electrical parts etc to make the jump. Not to mention sbt,wsm and about 25 other shops in the u.s all have that same old technology in stock.

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[emcfetr1]

I think that's the idea . Corner the market and make products where instead of being able to go to any of the 20 companies doing it you have to order from them . It's smart business but will take proof to make people trust it .@eastcoastjumper your point is valid and I'm guessing that's just to get the state to be happy and maybe let them sell it in dealers. No person buying a Bugatti or hellcat with the "slow" hp key or fast high hp key is actually running the slower key. Prop is one issue then twin 48's another but yea . It may be a marketing ploy but we act like that bs isn't put in our face daily in every industry that exist . All about making money . Competition breeds lower prices for consumers which is good for us , not for other companies . If it is a success I don't see it hurting hull building companies , more so engine building . If all goes well they plan to sell the motor packages prob a year later so people can drop them
In whatever they want . If anyone is going to have a problem with the electronics it will be us salt riding only people so guess we'll find out first hand . " Just give me high gear Harry" F the rest of the settings.

 

[Mr_Bucket]

How many 1000cc ski's have you ridden?

Great answer. Doesn't sound pretentious at all...

We're all very impressed by the fact that you assembled your first ski from sticks and stones 300 years ago and spent the next few centuries working your way up the cc chain, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to do the same thing.

 

[Big Kahuna]

man, I am guilty of not reading the rest of what you were saying with sarcasm. Please accept my apologizes.

 

[KawiKid]

I Really think you are over-looking the "littles" that put your build way over budget.. some of which are included in the $8500 kit... but lets say at $8500 is where you start... used motor $3500, carbs$1k, reeds/intake/fa's $500, Starter$100, bendix $50, Motor mounts $100, straps, etc etc etc.... The list goes on... and that's all used parts (which I use a lot of but after getting 2 gallons out of a used motor before carb screw went thru it) im kinda prone to more new than used stuff... Can you build one for what they offer? new, there's no way, used probably if you are ok waiting to find great deals on used parts and hope the are good.... If they sold a fixed steer tray ski, I'd be all over it for that $12k.... the reaper isn't the same even if the bottom deck is lol... my bot cost me a HELLA lot more to build.

Also keep in mind the 100 trips to Ace Hardware for the 1 screw you are missing lol... if you just WANT to build a ski, I get it... that's 1/2 the fun but if you're over it, then this is a great way to buy an aftermarket ski cheap

what is a fixed steer tray ski? like an x-2? (sorry, fairly new to this sport) (YES, the $12K price initially attracted me to this page since I was about to drop $9k for a SJ or $10k +tax etc on a new SXR, and I IMMEDIATELY thought of all the KRASH's on here that are plagued by water injestion, etc.)

 

[mike b]

Yeah I don't think too many people will set the ski down to 70hp, everyone wants a bit more power to frighten them a bit. I just have doubts as to how this would work especially with prop/pump tuning, then the port timing, pipe tuning, etc.

I don't get why everyone gets defensive over some opposite opinions. It's not negativity to doubt something just because it is different, its just looking at those things with a sense of reality. If it works or fails its not a big deal, people think about things in different ways. If everyone look at the product like its sliced bread then everyone would be a sheep. Innovation is built off of opposite opinions, otherwise we would all be on JS550 since no negativity allowed in this run down community.

And I am sure that this would have affects on other surf hull producers out there as well as motor companies. Now if Krash comes out with the drive-train being something that you can purchase without the hull then it shouldn't affect hull builders terribly but still probably one or two. One or two customers in a small niche market still makes a percentage tho.

 

[Big Kahuna]

People get all butt hurt here if you do not agree with them. It really takes the fun out of this site at times.

 

[yamanube]

People get all butt hurt here if you do not agree with them. It really takes the fun out of this LIFE at times.

Fixed

 

[x2mafia]

Can we get back on topic please?


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