Matt you should be the 1st one to ride Bobby's hull since you seem to know everything.
Matt you should be the 1st one to ride Bobby's hull since you seem to know everything.
I guess you kinda missed it.....he built Malones 05 WF boat that weighed 42lbs with hood. He is very familiar with making a boat work. When you guys see his work you will no longer question his abilitys. A few of the FL guys have already seen his work. No expence spared in his Materials!
As far as I know Bobby has no plans for making a race hull. His race ride plate is amazing though, the boat handles incredible. His plate weighs 2lb 2oz. My SJ protec plate is about 6" shorter and weighs 4lb 1oz.
I didnt mean it....I promise:biggthumpup: The net is not worth getting angry over.....you know far more then me! Thats for sure. :cheer:
i'd like to know what kind of materials were used in this 42 pound hull. Any Gelcoat? E glass, S Glass, Kevlar, Carbon, C/K weave, poly resin, epoxy resin, vinylester resin?
Well, if someone is going to buy something, they'll probably want to know what its made out of. As for the bashing? I'd hardly say im bashing, just curious to know what hes using for materials. Nobody that buys an aftermarket hull that weighs "42" pounds, is gonna shell out between 5-8k without knowing what its made out of.
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From the limited experience I have, you can get certain raw materials over there for about half price.
Go back to Trintiy's post! Thats straight from the horses mouth! Think :bs2: if you want, but that was recorded data...:bigeyes:
You might, but it might be crap, and you won't know until it's too late. I am in China right now, my company has a lot of suppliers over here. We allow some local suppliers to supply them, but we spec US materials for critical components. Been there, done that :banghead: The only advantage I see is labor, which adds up when you're making hundreds of thousands of parts a year. Not 10-20.
Also, someone in the US can purcahse materials from China if they really want to. I've never looked for fiberglass, but if they make it in China they will ship it to the US.
Did you happen to notice this thread? http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/9729
That's just Jeff's entry level chinpad
*The composite chin pad is made of fiberglass, carbon fiber, Kevlar, or combination of all three. Strength is the main advantage of our product compared to the stock one. Weight is also decreased by about 20 percent. Freestyle riders have a tendency to destroy the stock unit. Waterdawgs composite chin pad made of Kevlar would eliminate the problem forever. Kustom fit cover also available. Inquire when ordering.
(PN: WKSJ-CP): $140
Ummm... he said the top and bottom halves out of the mold weighed 37 pounds, and the hood weighed 5. He didn't say the assembled hull and hood weighed 42 pounds, and he said it was a prototype. No mention of a WF hull or how long it lasted.
I have personally laid up a prepreg hull, with a full honeycomb core and only 3 layers of something like a 4.5 ounce glass plus reinforcement in key areas, and it will weigh around 50 pounds complete. I haven't weighed it yet, but I am taking into account paint, foam, adhesive, plumbing, engine mounts, the exhaust tube, fasteners, what assembled prepreg hulls from this same company weigh, the bulkhead, etc. There's less than 20 pounds of actual cloth in this hull, so using a different fabric will not make it much if any lighter. Have you ever seen 4.5 oz glass? Three layers of it is just over half a millimeter thick :bigeyes: Honeycomb is the lightest core material. Prepreg uses the least amount of resin. So how do you get 42 pounds WITH hood?
I am not even saying that my 50 pound hull will be strong, but you can't make it significantly lighter. Well, maybe if you left out the foam...