These may rejuvenate the racing scene as long as they can provide financing for young males like they did for standups 20+ years ago. Racing has become a competition of deep pockets, so has freestyle. This has excluded almost everyone with the desire to compete.
Surfriding New Hope For Seadoo?
- Thread starter TJR
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These may rejuvenate the racing scene as long as they can provide financing for young males like they did for standups 20+ years ago. Racing has become a competition of deep pockets, so has freestyle. This has excluded almost everyone with the desire to compete.
- Location
- Washington, PA
Am I the only one that watched this in disappointment that BRP, who owns Evinrude, who makes amazing clean burning awesome two strokes, is STILL on the stupid ass 4 stoke kick? I will admit it is a step in the right direction as for size and weight, it looked like it came out of the water nicely and all but this 4 stroke bull
kills me.
kills me.
icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
Awesome, way to go SeaDoo - Im definitely interested in buying one. I wonder how it compares in size, weight, speed to a blaster.
I also imagine tuning, and turbo options might make their way into the market as well. Think how this ski will dominate the rental market too - easy to work on, top deck replacement parts.... cheap
I also imagine tuning, and turbo options might make their way into the market as well. Think how this ski will dominate the rental market too - easy to work on, top deck replacement parts.... cheap
N3vrSat1sfied
Military Member
- Location
- Fort Worth, TX
Am I the only one that watched this in disappointment that BRP, who owns Evinrude, who makes amazing clean burning awesome two strokes, is STILL on the stupid ass 4 stoke kick? I will admit it is a step in the right direction as for size and weight, it looked like it came out of the water nicely and all but this 4 stroke bull
This is true, Almost all their new sleds are still coming with 2 strokes etec motors.
Who knows, maybe this could eventually lead to standup sales. The first watercraft I ever owned was a Seadoo SPX. After a few months I was bored and bought a standup the next season. This type of product can get new people in the sport, and maybe convert them to standup riders.
h2odesperado
Pin it to win it
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
A few forums are saying the hull is based of the X4, the 95 and 96 xp's. Those boats are still a huuuge part of racing. Good hull, motor just prime for upgrades. I reaallly hope it takes off. Hopefully some of the technology of the mega couches pushing 400 HP trickles down to these. That would be some good racing!
Even with all that said, it would be a great backup or loaner ski. 5k, uses almost no gas? Hopefully it'll be reliable as well. (fingers crossed)
Even with all that said, it would be a great backup or loaner ski. 5k, uses almost no gas? Hopefully it'll be reliable as well. (fingers crossed)
Quinc
Buy a Superjet
- Location
- California
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Quinc
Buy a Superjet
- Location
- California
SXIPro
JM781 Big Bore
- Location
- Here on the 'X' mostly
I think it is genius on SeaDoo's part, even though it hurts my soul to say that. A fun cheap entry level ski. People that only wanted to buy new because of warranty and reliability concerns of buying used can now buy this for cheap money. They then get hooked on the hobby but realize they want more speed, and in two years are buying a go-fast $15K barge like an RXT.
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
On green hulk they are saying its based on an hx hull. That's one of the coolest handling hulls out there
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
If you have a look at the bottom it does look much like a wide hx
I admire your pessimism.
This might of gone un-noticed by many, but I see this as a huge leap forward (albeit a simple thing). The main problem with 4 stroke standups is water ingestion. This could help remedy that problem.
- Location
- Long Island , NY
How long before there is one in a sj.
Speleopower
got a Superjet
- Location
- Cocoa Beach
I have an old Sea Doo SP with the little 580 motor. Its a blast in small surf and the new Spark looks like fun as well. Good job Sea Doo.
OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
I say less than a month from the day they hit the showroom floor. I'm already bugging my wife to let me pick one up for her ski.
Yamaha did something very similar about 7 years ago in their snowmobiles. They had switched their entire lineup over to massive 4 strokes that responded very well to turbos and such. It was nothing to have 325hp 2 days after you bought your ski. After about 3 years of offering these monsters, Yamaha came out with a 90hp 500cc twin cylinder 4 stroke and brought back the Phazer. I picked up a lightly used one for my ex for $5500 out the door. It was a goofy looking thing but I ended up riding it more than she did. I had a 2003 Skidoo Summit at the time with the 800cc Rotax and 151" track. My ski was rated at 165HP but that little 4 stroke was so well balanced and engineered that it was more nimble and way more fun even though it weighed 150lbs more and had almost half the hp. It was great on fuel, near impossible to get stuck and was just an all around funner machine. They offered a turbo for it as well that would have boosted it to 135HP but I never got the chance to do it and ended up selling everything and moving to the US.
Here's a writeup on the turbo'd Phazer here; http://www.montanayamaha.com/mcxpress_pdfs/phazer.pdf
BRP offered a fun and lightweight 2 stroke model which my boss at the time had a pair of for his kids. He bought my Phazer for his wife and said it was a much nicer ski and drank way less fuel. Even though similar in cc's and HP, the 4 stroke had way more torque which is ideal in a snowmobile.