new TNT pipe

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#ZERO

Beach Bum
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Florida - U.S.A.
I'd like to see a picture of all three chambers to compare the difference between them.

Would it be more cost effective to modify an existing stamped stainless pipe such as the blaster mod chamber?

I have a couple of those just sitting on the self. :biggrin:
 
Hey, good idea.

Mind posting what your job is, maybe we can get that sourced out cheaper as well.

Brian


LoL funny you should ask,I work in a field where it "use to be" very tough to bid against mexican labor.ummmmmmm guess what I changed with the times and brought some LEGAL mexicans in myself. This will touch a nerve with some,so be it,most american labor is well for the sake of the best term I will use problematic.We are spoiled here........sorry just the way it is. I hear all these stories of pipe builders with things like there is no money in it anyway and having to spend 100k to make 4k,sorry thats the most retarded business strategy ive ever heard. If thats the case and its noit about $ just looking out for the sport,then this makes even more sense.
wavedemon hit my proposal on the head,If I were the designer of said pipe,I would outsource the non skilled element overseas,material and labor, and do it for 1/10th the cost,actually turn a profit for my efforts and bring a product to all of us at 1/5th the cost. this is the perfect product for this type venture. I would not buy something mechanical and made cheaply by the Chinese such as a wastegate or turbo,but a header or a pipe..uh yea.if there is one thing they can do,it would be weld,and dang close to perfect.IF you have to ride the dang ship back with your container to sleep at night.......
 
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GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
LoL funny you should ask,I work in a field where it "use to be" very tough to bid against mexican labor.ummmmmmm guess what I changed with the times and brought some LEGAL mexicans in myself. This will touch a nerve with some,so be it,most american labor is well for the sake of the best term I will use problematic.We are spoiled here........sorry just the way it is. I hear all these stories of pipe builders with things like there is no money in it anyway and having to spend 100k to make 4k,sorry thats the most retarded business strategy ive ever heard. If thats the case and its noit about $ just looking out for the sport,then this makes even more sense.
wavedemon hit my proposal on the head,If I were the designer of said pipe,I would outsource the non skilled element overseas,material and labor, and do it for 1/10th the cost,actually turn a profit for my efforts and bring a product to all of us at 1/5th the cost. this is the perfect product for this type venture. I would not buy something mechanical and made cheaply by the Chinese such as a wastegate or turbo,but a header or a pipe..uh yea.if there is one thing they can do,it would be weld,and dang close to perfect.IF you have to ride the dang ship back with your container to sleep at night.......

Well spoken! Look at the shape the big 3 are in right now due to American labor and labor unions!!! If they don't get their chit together soon-they are gonna drag the auto industry down the dam toilet! Oh wait-they already did with the help of Obama Been Laden. LOL (yes-I work in a domestic new car dealership that is on it's way to B/K). rant over
 

tntsuperjet

Tntperformance-engineering.com
Location
Georgetown ca
Master blaster, we get a few more people like you on this thread and you will see me vaporize from the sport.
I make what I sell, also believe in making things in my own country.
If I can't make few bucks building it with 100% pure American labor.
Then I just won't build it! I am never going to add to the financial gains of a country who pays no attention to slave labor or what kind of damage they do.
Ya some amricans are spoiled, but you pay people what there worth. Trim what you have to on top and run a tight ship.
That's my business practice, my services don't come cheap but I'm not the most expensive on the block either.
Ford isn't in trouble, gm has Corp pukes making few mil a yr, fly a 35 million dollar Corp jet to Washington with there hand out. and they complain about line labor cost. Trim your top fat!
Tax all imports 50% like all other countryside do!
Every TNT chamber out there is over 15yrs old And there still in use!
That's my testiment to quality product at an affordable price.

This will be my last post to this thread!
Those who are interested can email me!
 
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SkiNaked

Stand up or Shut up!
My 15 year old pipe still looks like new and rocks!!! I am parting out my SN ski otherwise I would definitely switch to this pipe on both my skis. Crisper bottom end. Much easier to get on and off then a regular B pipe. Works with stock gas tank. Looks bitchen. What else do you want?
 

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
You sir are a moron, feel free to crap in the pockets of every hard working innovative american out there.

Go crap in your flush toliet and wipe your ass with lead-free toliet paper(if it is made in the USA) and see why everything here costs more, from regulations to "ensure" safe products, to infrastrusture, to raw material, on up to finished product.

If you are seriously in business for yourself, you can't argue this point with any logic.

I am done with this subject.

Brian

LoL funny you should ask,I work in a field where it "use to be" very tough to bid against mexican labor.ummmmmmm guess what I changed with the times and brought some LEGAL mexicans in myself. This will touch a nerve with some,so be it,most american labor is well for the sake of the best term I will use problematic.We are spoiled here........sorry just the way it is. I hear all these stories of pipe builders with things like there is no money in it anyway and having to spend 100k to make 4k,sorry thats the most retarded business strategy ive ever heard. If thats the case and its noit about $ just looking out for the sport,then this makes even more sense.
wavedemon hit my proposal on the head,If I were the designer of said pipe,I would outsource the non skilled element overseas,material and labor, and do it for 1/10th the cost,actually turn a profit for my efforts and bring a product to all of us at 1/5th the cost. this is the perfect product for this type venture. I would not buy something mechanical and made cheaply by the Chinese such as a wastegate or turbo,but a header or a pipe..uh yea.if there is one thing they can do,it would be weld,and dang close to perfect.IF you have to ride the dang ship back with your container to sleep at night.......
 
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detroit is a great example. freakin assembly line monkeys pushin the same button all day makin $35+ hour thanks to the union. Its not to say SOME American products cant be produced here with a good business plan. Toyota makes alot of their cars in the south at very productive plants with relative and reasonable pay,but the margins still make sense without the import taxes.
shizz now we are way off topic. Id just like to see stupid priced items like mag pumps,pipes and the like produced for a reasonable and profitable price by their designers rather than ripped off by someone else.
IF the original designer of these type products started off sourcing them to china and came in a already low price,odds are they would not be ripped off in the first place,and even if they did,the price would be close enough that it wouldnt really matter much.when you have a product that "leaving R&D out" is nothing more than a chunk or piece of metal cut up and welded and priced over $500 and in some cases over $3000. If you are a smart business person you already should know you are leaving yourself wide open to this kinda pitfall

tnt I understand where you are coming from though if you want to make them yourself,our grandparents were alot like you,didnt mind working their azz off for 4k a yr,I respect you for it. Ive always been hard core business all the way back to college dayz,Ive never worked for anyone else since high school.I relate to your struggle. but ill choose a business plan to make $ over ALMOST anything else.

wsu.. bro I wouldnt buy drywall,or medicine from them,be realistic its a piece of metal welded up
 
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jetski9010

Team RTYD
Location
Lancaster PA
I will always buy american whenever I can. I will for sure buy from a guy who is teaming up with some top names in the sport to make a quality pipe for the love of the sport. I wouldnt care if a pipe like this was $1000 it is still worth it in my mind. Tim dont let people like masterblaster get to you. I think there are plenty of loyal buyers on this site.
 
9010 oh im sure there are too,2 kinds of buyers. #1 You ever been to someones house or trailer lol that has a ski or bike sitting in their living room that cost as much or more than everything else they have.including the place its sitting in,and almost feel sorry for them.
#2 ever been to someones house thats so big you dont see the ski or bike because everything else is so nice you forgot and you kinda start to feel sorry for yourself......lol

the other 99% in the middle would like one too........totally kidding dont freak out,this would apply more to 35 k skis...........
 
Location
Ohio
So F this thread. Can we get some real performance #'s on adding a TNT chamber or not?

That is why TNT came here....to ask questions....and now we have questions about performance for a 500 chamber and he is offended and "out".

smell ya later then IMO....until I see something otherwise I will assume everything I have ever read is true......carbon chambers and TNT chambers are bling and bling only.

I'll keep my money.
 
Location
Ohio
And how long did you people expect stainless welded rings to last? Forever? Yea ...me too. I wonder how long my stamped aluminum chamber will last? Hmmm? Maybe.....forever?
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
I just want to say good job on Running Off one of the best pipe builders in the sport.

You had to know how this was going to go down. The range of income and mentalities is tooo broad here on the X! You know how I feel about the TNT and did u notice I kept my mouth shut? (for once)lol

As far as subcontracting the manufacturing process-I see the point on both sides. I am really pissed at the American govt right now and therefore I am not the right person to listen to by a long shot. My wife and I are about to lose both of our jobs thanks to the govt F'in with the car business which is approx 144k combined yearly income. I am about to be SCREWED due to my stupidity in financing everything I own and Obama's 'change'. rant over 1 more time.

I am glad to see Tim on here seeking opinions-BUT-he needs to learn which people to listen to and which ones to ignore. I am also glad to see someone else trying to keep 'pushing the envelope' for us/our hobby/sport. Thank you Tim!
 
Location
Ohio
I was glad to see him here too......would have loved to hear what makes a TNT chamber for a FPP b pipe special. I really would have loved to see some RPM numbers and such....

Lame.....
 

Scorn800

Ride for life
Location
North NJ
LoL funny you should ask,I work in a field where it "use to be" very tough to bid against mexican labor.ummmmmmm guess what I changed with the times and brought some LEGAL mexicans in myself. This will touch a nerve with some,so be it,most american labor is well for the sake of the best term I will use problematic.We are spoiled here........sorry just the way it is. I hear all these stories of pipe builders with things like there is no money in it anyway and having to spend 100k to make 4k,sorry thats the most retarded business strategy ive ever heard. If thats the case and its noit about $ just looking out for the sport,then this makes even more sense.
wavedemon hit my proposal on the head,If I were the designer of said pipe,I would outsource the non skilled element overseas,material and labor, and do it for 1/10th the cost,actually turn a profit for my efforts and bring a product to all of us at 1/5th the cost. this is the perfect product for this type venture. I would not buy something mechanical and made cheaply by the Chinese such as a wastegate or turbo,but a header or a pipe..uh yea.if there is one thing they can do,it would be weld,and dang close to perfect.IF you have to ride the dang ship back with your container to sleep at night.......


So is your "legal" help skilled?
I rather pay someone you know is going to do the job my way than some "legal" doing it 1/2 a$$
I've seen the "import crap" in the automotive equipment industry for years. The super cheap prices lure people in. Your so call "perfect welds" have killed a few people when the arm weld breaks on a car lift.
You get what you pay for and smart people would rather pay for quaility product.
Tim please try to overlook these cheap a$$ morons.
I'm looking foward to see your new pipe and willing to pay for it.
 
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