I don't know about this one, it looks like it needs some upgrades to handling based on the video. Modular design is cool, but definitely not marketable to our crowd of riders. I could see it being fun with an 1100 in it maybe, turn that thing into a rocket ship, but apart from that, it looks like a good way to lose a couple million dollars.
Custom/Hybrid Please help with survey on new PWC design
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Quinc
Buy a Superjet
- Location
- California
The pwctoday thread has a link to a page that talks about it. 250cc 32hp 4 stroke that is custom made just for this ski by a company in Europe.
swapmeet
Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
Or, to Vumad's point it needs to decide what it wants to be. IMO, make it a fishing rig that kids could putt around on. So the guy who loves fishing but lives in suburbia or an apt can go hit his local spot but keep his 'boat' indoors.
Maybe he's getting a great deal on the engine, but thats not enough power or CC's to engage the thrill seeking market. With the Spark having 700-800cc's its a no brainer, even with the need for a trailer.
European sourced engine would make me leery as well, I was hoping it would be sourced from a major mfg with a existing parts distribution network of some nature.
Just more food for though for the inventor.
Maybe he's getting a great deal on the engine, but thats not enough power or CC's to engage the thrill seeking market. With the Spark having 700-800cc's its a no brainer, even with the need for a trailer.
European sourced engine would make me leery as well, I was hoping it would be sourced from a major mfg with a existing parts distribution network of some nature.
Just more food for though for the inventor.
MattyIce26
Matt S.
- Location
- Lockport, IL.
The guys at Bomboard are class-act guys, I know a few you of you on here like me have actually sat down and talked to them about the machine. The owner, John, grew up riding the Kawi 550s and remembered how much fun they were and wanted to make a new ski that would possibly try and bring back the "the 90s" swing of jet skiing. Whatever happens, happens. I'm hoping they do break through and invent a product that will attract more people to the sport. Only time will tell
227
Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
Since he's asking for honest opinions here's mine. I hate to be negative here but lying would be doing the inventor an even bigger disservice. This doesn't look like it's going to go very far, mainly because in its current form, its already obsolete compared to what's already available, for less. Judging by his promo video, even older, obsolete production model watercraft would clearly outperform it. Yes I realize it's just a garage prototype, designed by some retiree, and he's done a fair job, but unfortunately for him, every aspect of practical watercraft design has already been touched upon by the "big 3". The only thing truly innovative that it has to offer is that its modular. Honestly though, IMO that's not enough to redeem its weaknesses in all the other areas. Besides, the big advantage of being modular, its ability to be transported in a car, also has set backs. Since the modular parts of the water craft are taking up space in your car that you would normally be used to transport your gas, riding gear, chairs, EZ-up etc, then you're going to end up needing a trailer to carry those items anyways so there isn't really a win here either. I'm not even going to get started on the extremely poor hull shape design or what type of power plant it will have. Remember one of Yamahas biggest selling points, and the reason the majority of aftermarket hulls are mainly Yamaha based is because of the superior and reliable design of Yamaha engines. You can't just drop in some motor from a European country and expect Yamaha reliability
This is the answer to a question nobody is asking, in addition to the point 227 is making, most people will not want to take it directly out of the lake and into their vehicle.
At that price point, you could outfit your whole family with 550s.
At that price point, you could outfit your whole family with 550s.
SkiPro
Trim down for what!?!?!?
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- E-Town, Ok
lolol He said if the nose was any longer you could use it to harpoon wales!! lololol that was good...
On the real though..that -8 Handle pole is kinda sweet. lol
On the real though..that -8 Handle pole is kinda sweet. lol
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
I find it interesting when people compare what is available used to a new product. A guy I work (His name is Tom) with bought a VX110 for $10,000 out the door on a trailer. I bought a 1998 GP1200 with no trailer for $1000. I put bars, steering cable, oil bypass on it.
Tom is not a used jet ski kind of guy. He wants new and he wants to spend money on new. Given the option of a used SXR for $4000, or a new one for $8000, he would buy the new one.
It is irrelevant to compare new to used.
This is America. Our country loves debt and making payments. The problem is not what you can buy a used 550 vs a new BomBoard in pricing. The problem is the functionality of the machine, period.
There is absolutely positively a market for a 80lb 4-stroke jet ski that does 40mph that is modular or not-modular that costs $3500. Anyone who objects to that statement is unaware. I bet if you redesigned this thing similar to a superjet or SXR, weighs under 100lbs, with that little motor, it would sell amazing. We wouldn't be discussing how it wont sell. We would have a list of people expressing interest and wondering when the bigger motor will be available. Just think california, lake meade, etc.
Tom is not a used jet ski kind of guy. He wants new and he wants to spend money on new. Given the option of a used SXR for $4000, or a new one for $8000, he would buy the new one.
It is irrelevant to compare new to used.
This is America. Our country loves debt and making payments. The problem is not what you can buy a used 550 vs a new BomBoard in pricing. The problem is the functionality of the machine, period.
There is absolutely positively a market for a 80lb 4-stroke jet ski that does 40mph that is modular or not-modular that costs $3500. Anyone who objects to that statement is unaware. I bet if you redesigned this thing similar to a superjet or SXR, weighs under 100lbs, with that little motor, it would sell amazing. We wouldn't be discussing how it wont sell. We would have a list of people expressing interest and wondering when the bigger motor will be available. Just think california, lake meade, etc.
Schmidty721
someone turf my rails
- Location
- WI
How many "standup" models do you think they would sell. Be realistic. A standup model would take time to learn how to ride, and America is F'n lazy. I'm not saying their current design is good or bad, but it has to be stable enough and easy enough to ride so anyone with moderate coordination can get on it and have fun.
MattyIce26
Matt S.
- Location
- Lockport, IL.
Couldn't have stated it better myself. Plus I'm sure they're gonna offer some type of "warranty" to.
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
If they offered a 90hp spark based on the sxr platform, there would be a line of us to buy one. If a company sold a Superjet style ski that was ready to ride at 80lbs and a 4-stroke for $3500, I think a lot would sell too.
Used SXRs around me are selling for about $4000. I'm more than confident a brand new 90hp spark based sxr for $5000 would sell no problem.
Quinc
Buy a Superjet
- Location
- California
Newest video. Looks a-lot better then the first. Also show the guy riding standing up.
Midlake Crisis
Site Supporter
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- Bakersfield, CA
That handlebar stem is scary.
socal750
Socal750
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- beaumont CA
Was chatting with a guy In Parker who was telling me about some ski they were workin on... Said it was single piston 500cc 4stroke based off of more of a wakeboard bottom with a single tube handpole,1 gallon fuel cell super light weight... Said he has a working prototype...never heard about it again... Wonder if this is like what he was building
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- Ogden, Utah
Am I the only one who thinks using "kick-ass" in the name is a bad idea? Just seems like bad marketing to me. Just my 2 cents.
Bobert540
Site Supporter
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- Rockford,MI
I agree on the "kick-ass" part. If this guy was that smart, he would know to hire someone to sell this "revolutionary" ski.
This seems like a product for the show "shark tank" and my guess is he would leave empty handed.
This seems like a product for the show "shark tank" and my guess is he would leave empty handed.
makejetskiinggreatagain
Brandon
The thing is ugly (yes I just watched the newest vid). Even if the functionality was perfect in all aspects (which its not), no one is going to want to be caught dead on something so hideous. Color scheme is great I even kinda like the hand pole. But make that thing more narrow, round the nose, and make it look cool. I think the type of crowd he is aiming for would give up some functionality for looks any day.
swapmeet
Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
As a professional salesman, I couldn't agree more. That was a immensely painful sales presentation.
That guy should have been standing on stage, off to the side, ready to answer questions after a actual sales person finished the preso.
Beyond that, it looks like they're going for it, and I wish them luck.
john zigler
Vendor Account
- Location
- wisconsin
I can say, There is already a "TOTALLY" new hull, and design in the works, new larger motor, bigger jet pump etc. These guys are constantly changing, and "evolving". It is good stuff.